Street Tuner Challenge season 3

[FocusSportVP]

I don't think any of the cars are 100% legal in all 50 states so it really doesn't matter.

[MattZTS]

i havent watched in a couple weeks cuz ive been working till midnight. i came home to late to catch the new episode today. im watching last weeks. omg these fireball people look like bigger clowns as this goes on.

focus sport is killing it tho. so far everything is done very well.

skunk seems to be getting better.

[BUR_ZX3]

DUH! I could have told you it was crank position sensor!!!!!

[FocusSportVP]

I haven't even seen the episode yet, I forgot it was on last nite.

[BUR_ZX3]

I know... you guys knew it all along... just a little stunt to get some love for the guys at Fairway Ford eh?

Smoooooooooooooooooooooooth.

[MattZTS]

i liked randy's line. he said something like tuning is easy thats what i do. lol. i actually lol'ed.

[FocusSportVP]

Originally Posted by MattZTS

i liked randy's line. he said something like tuning is easy thats what i do. lol. i actually lol'ed.

Hmmm, they kinda left out a ton of what was going on and also what I was talking about. I said that because we had spent weeks just trying to get the files to LOAD into the car and that had NOTHING to do with tuning. The loading is usually just something that takes a few minutes and its isn't anything difficult versus the drive by wire Focus which is not the easiest thing I have ever done.

Alan from the Ford dealership was called in to help me try to load one of my files into the car. I had created a program and converted it to a format that a Ford dealership would use. It was a test because at the time we didn't know that it was a hardware issue that was keeping the car from being started and I needed a back up plan in case we couldn't get the X3 to load my files into the car. It was just pure luck on our part that Alan was there to troubleshoot the crank position sensor.

[Justacarguy]

Vic Were are you !!!!!!!!!, I just saw the today's new episode. At the end they showed Dr. Charlies testing out his new Bluetooth stereo with a test call. He called you and Yelled, Ford Sucks !!!!!!!!!!!!! through the phone at you. I hope you didn't put up with that !!!!! Thats all I've got to say.

[benit0]

someone wanna give me a episode recap? i got home late tonight :/ i just wanna know about the focus and evo, i dont think the mini stands a chance imo.

[S. on Da 5]

Originally Posted by benit0

someone wanna give me a episode recap? i got home late tonight :/ i just wanna know about the focus and evo, i dont think the mini stands a chance imo.

ME too.

What happend?

[Egz]

Came in late on the Evo, but they did a clutch / transmission install at the end, as well as some dulling the clear coat on the CF parts. The Focus went to a Corvette speciality shop for paint prep. They removed bumpers, fenders, dash items; removed those fender vents and welded the holes closed, and started sanding the paint for the new coat.

[jptech2004]

the mini was getting it's final body assembly as well as the evo. those 18x10? wheels on the evo look siiiiick!!!!

[lourenco]

Originally Posted by FocusSportVP

Vik = Technician and fabricator

Randy = Vice President, Business admin and ECU calibrator

Raffi = President and Business admin

but it looks like Raffi is a mechanic also or at least he was playing a mechanic for the T.V. show. That or he does little bit of everything.

I notice the size of the turbo and the size of the intercooler. It does not look like it will make alot of hp. I am thinking 350fwhp to 380fwhp max. It will not be a 400fwhp+ monster, but that probably was not your goal. I am thinking you wanted something with overall good hp and tq.

[brads03zx3]

Originally Posted by lourenco

I notice the size of the turbo and the size of the intercooler. It does not look like it will make alot of hp. I am thinking 350fwhp to 380fwhp max. It will not be a 400fwhp+ monster, but that probably was not your goal. I am thinking you wanted something with overall good hp and tq.

So wait a minute...380whp is good hp and 400whp is 'alot' of hp? I doubt there would be a significant difference in lap times with the two. In fact, lap times would probably suffer if they had used a turbo that did "look like it will make alot of hp" and lagged out of the corners.

[lourenco]

Originally Posted by brads03zx3

So wait a minute...380whp is good hp and 400whp is 'alot' of hp? I doubt there would be a significant difference in lap times with the two. In fact, lap times would probably suffer if they had used a turbo that did "look like it will make alot of hp" and lagged out of the corners.

480fwhp would be nice to see. 380fwhp would not be impressive for me to see from a duratec. It is okay, but it could be better.

If the car makes power from 4,500 rpms + from the larger turbo, the car would need either a way for the turbo to spool up sooner or way for the engine to rev up higher rpms to keep it in the power curve. One way to make sure the car still has good low end power and turbo spools up good would to put a roots type or twin supercharger on it with the turbo. That would be something. Here is a link about what I am taking about. It can be done, It would just require money and time for developement. Someone could see if powerworks has a duratec protoype kit, which I think they might have. Do that or run small turbo and a big turbo or do nitrous. I do no like nitrous that much, but it works.

The main problem would be traction. I think the car would need custom wide body kit to go with racing slicks for road racing. It would need wide soft tires and not narrow hard tires that the car comes with normally.

If it still has traction issues still, someone can use a electronic boost controller to limit the boost in each gear. I use the boost controller on my car to limit the boost in 1st, and 2nd gear. It has full boost in 3rd.

I think about anything can been done if there is enough money, time, and good companies to make the parts. It might of been a budget, time, and parts issue for why FS did not try to do something more like what I am thinking. Overall I like the overall out come of their car.

[ZX3autoxtasy]

^ Lol.

I think your thinking too far into it.

[ClintB1321]

Originally Posted by lourenco

480fwhp would be nice to see. 380fwhp would not be impressive for me to see from a duratec. It is okay, but it could be better.

If the car makes power from 4,500 rpms + from the larger turbo, the car would need either a way for the turbo to spool up sooner or way for the engine to rev up higher rpms to keep it in the power curve. One way to make sure the car still has good low end power and turbo spools up good would to put a roots type or twin supercharger on it with the turbo. That would be something. Here is a link about what I am taking about. It can be done, It would just require money and time for developement. Someone could see if powerworks has a duratec protoype kit, which I think they might have. Do that or run small turbo and a big turbo or do nitrous. I do no like nitrous that much, but it works.

The main problem would be traction. I think the car would need custom wide body kit to go with racing slicks for road racing. It would need wide soft tires and not narrow hard tires that the car comes with normally.

If it still has traction issues still, someone can use a electronic boost controller to limit the boost in each gear. I use the boost controller on my car to limit the boost in 1st, and 2nd gear. It has full boost in 3rd.

I think about anything can been done if there is enough money, time, and good companies to make the parts. It might of been a budget, time, and parts issue for why FS did not try to do something more like what I am thinking. Overall I am still like the overall out come of their car.

The guys at FS know what they're doing, and its gunna show once the performance test episodes air

[FocusSportVP]

Originally Posted by lourenco

but it looks like Raffi is a mechanic also or at least he was playing a mechanic for the T.V. show. That or he does little bit of everything.

I notice the size of the turbo and the size of the intercooler. It does not look like it will make alot of hp. I am thinking 350fwhp to 380fwhp max. It will not be a 400fwhp+ monster, but that probably was not your goal. I am thinking you wanted something with overall good hp and tq.

I posted our main roles as the business is concerned on a daily basis. Of course we can do other things. Raffi is more than capable of wrenching on a car if he wants to. Raffi doesn't refer to himself as a mechanic. I take 98% of all of our company photos and write the text for our catalogs and websites, but I don't refer to myself as a photographer or writer. You get the idea.

[FocusSportVP]

Originally Posted by lourenco

480fwhp would be nice to see. 380fwhp would not be impressive for me to see from a duratec. It is okay, but it could be better.

If the car makes power from 4,500 rpms + from the larger turbo, the car would need either a way for the turbo to spool up sooner or way for the engine to rev up higher rpms to keep it in the power curve. One way to make sure the car still has good low end power and turbo spools up good would to put a roots type or twin supercharger on it with the turbo. That would be something. Here is a link about what I am taking about. It can be done, It would just require money and time for developement. Someone could see if powerworks has a duratec protoype kit, which I think they might have. Do that or run small turbo and a big turbo or do nitrous. I do no like nitrous that much, but it works.

The main problem would be traction. I think the car would need custom wide body kit to go with racing slicks for road racing. It would need wide soft tires and not narrow hard tires that the car comes with normally.

If it still has traction issues still, someone can use a electronic boost controller to limit the boost in each gear. I use the boost controller on my car to limit the boost in 1st, and 2nd gear. It has full boost in 3rd.

I think about anything can been done if there is enough money, time, and good companies to make the parts. It might of been a budget, time, and parts issue for why FS did not try to do something more like what I am thinking. Overall I am still like the overall out come of their car.

Hey William, if you and the rest of CFM are not impressed with our end results, I really don't know what to say. You'll find out next week and the week after. Our goal was to win and I think we did the best that we could with the time and money we had to work with.

edit: typo

[lourenco]

I do like the car overall, but I am just saying I wished it had more stuff done to in the hp area. I was trying to figure out why you did not do more, and now I understand why. Given those issues, I am sure anyone would find it hard to do more.

[FocusSportVP]

Well, the goal wasn't to see who had the most HP or to make as much HP as mechanically possible. 500 HP at the wheels isn't gonna get it done on a road course in a front wheel drive Focus without nitrous for the low end. And we didn't use nitrous since it wasn't allowed. The goal was to win the entire Street Tuner Challenge. Some of the FS crew wanted more power and some didn't think it was needed for what we were trying to achieve, which again was to win the entire thing. And its not like we had as much time as we needed to do whatever we wanted. There is a set schedule and there was no time to screw around and test a bunch of different hardware configurations. We had just enough time to make one crucial power related change and that was it.

No one here KNOWS the end result HP and TQ, nor do they KNOW the end result for the show, but that will be made public soon enough.

[f2focus]

Guys lets keep it where it is, this has shown how capable the focus is! A lot of people don't give it enough credit, like I told Randy what they are doing is really good for th Focus Community. They took the new 08 Focus which a lot of people still don't like, but let me tell you after driving and making some parts the car is awesome!

If people want raw horsepower than lets see one person that is ready to do drop thousands of dollars on a their car to have 1,000hp+ car! It can be done but why.....

The guys at FS are very capable of doing a lot but they also have a business to run, Raffi is a smart guy and been doing this for a while. My close friends now his family and Raffi personally so I will just say lets be proud of what they did and accomplished....Good Showing guys!