Street Tuner Challenge season 3 - Page 3 - Focaljet

**ZX3autoxtasy** · 09-30-2007, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Croc_Tease!

It COULD, but it probably wont. I'm sure they aren't just throwing a stg 2 on and calling it a day. They are building up the engine (it says so even on the speed tv site). ClintB is putting down 280whp in a FS turbo 2.0 duratec, that's more than a stock evo.

They but 3 hours with an Evo and a debit card, and you'll get much more power than you ever will with a Focus and dumptruck full of $100 bills.

**focaljet-1** · 09-30-2007, 02:01 PM

The show is not about absolute power numbers. It's about largest GAIN over stock, and several other factors.

**j20000** · 09-30-2007, 02:19 PM

Plus look at the FS 2.3 car....its putting down 380whp.

**ZX3autoxtasy** · 09-30-2007, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by focaljet-1

The show is not about absolute power numbers. It's about largest GAIN over stock, and several other factors.

I didn't say it was. But, like others said...a Focus, a Mini, and an Evo?

It doesn't fit.

**guitarseth** · 09-30-2007, 03:06 PM

The show tries to pit a European car against a Domestic and a Japanese car. There aren't a whole lot of new domestic sport compacts with an aftermarket following that haven't already been put on the show. Heck, even a Mustang was a bit of a stretch.

I think its the best decision that Ford has made with the 08 Focus so far!

**focaljet-1** · 09-30-2007, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ZX3autoxtasy

I didn't say it was. But, like others said...a Focus, a Mini, and an Evo?

It doesn't fit.

You said: "But no offense, won't the Evo still have more power stock than the FS Turbo Focus?"

So yes, you actually DID say it in so many words.

If you don't understand the concept of the show, well then I can't help you.

**ZX3autoxtasy** · 09-30-2007, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by focaljet-1

You said: "But no offense, won't the Evo still have more power stock than the FS Turbo Focus?"

So yes, you actually DID say it in so many words.

If you don't understand the concept of the show, well then I can't help you.

Do I even need to mention handling and track ability? Let alone looks?

Comparatively, I'm pretty sure the Evo wins all of those correct?

I didn't think I needed to bring anything else up besides HP, because there already settled.

**tallguy2.3** · 09-30-2007, 04:06 PM

In any case, this 08 is going to be sick and I think Ford lucked out in getting FS to build this car in the puiblic eye. 08 Focuses will be suddenly much cooler. I have total confidence in FS's work, style, products, and innovation so I think its going to rock.
Setting the DVR now....

**BUR_ZX3** · 09-30-2007, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ZX3autoxtasy

Do I even need to mention handling and track ability? Let alone looks?

Comparatively, I'm pretty sure the Evo wins all of those correct?

I didn't think I needed to bring anything else up besides HP, because there already settled.

Well, I'm pretty sure FocusSport's '05 ZX3 Turbocharged 2.3L beat the everlivingcrap out of some Corvettes, Porsches, and a Ferrari F430 or two at JetFest2. Not to mention the several race-prepped Evos and Minis that were there as well. So I'd assume that they're gonna build an '08 that will be just as all-out as that car is, not to mention being much better looking than the stock.

**ZX3autoxtasy** · 09-30-2007, 04:18 PM

*True, but people still drive those cars.

Anyways, I'm done. It's sure to be cool, and I hope FS builds something sweet.

**MrTea** · 10-01-2007, 09:24 PM

i was at Jetfest2 as well, and attend plenty of NASA Time Trial events.....and Focus sport stomped on some trailored cars. it was damn funny seeing their reactions as it went by them in a blink in some cases.

hopefully they do the track time on Big Willow this year and not streets, if that's the case i think Randy and them have plenty chances to be right with the evo. and who knows, i think i've seen 3 of Skunk's engines grenade in the last 18 months or so.....maybe Charles will put this one a bit too close to the enge as well?

as far as the mini, i know they are responsible for the "fastest mini in the world" (over 600hp out of their 1.8)....and they have been building them for a LONG time.

i think the further it goes, the more interested i am in this years show!

**OneYoungGun** · 10-01-2007, 09:39 PM

Someone close by slap an FJ sticker on that sumabeach! But seriously it would be cool to see that on TV!

**OneYoungGun** · 10-01-2007, 09:46 PM

So what day is the premier? I have the schedule up but I don't know what is from last season and whats the new season?

**slidemaster** · 10-02-2007, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ZX3autoxtasy

This is awesome!

But no offense, won't the Evo still have more power stock than the FS Turbo Focus?

Pretty common to see Evo's with 600hp in the time attacks. They have huge dollar investments but very quick.

Nik from Redline hosted year one, and I helped with coaching and timing the final show. 12 hrs, in 115 heat, helped solve some problems, no pay and then no mention in the credits. Left a crappy taste in my mouth. Plus there was a promise from them to post my analysis of the drivers performance based upon all we learned from the data acquisision we brought. They didnt do anything with that

**Random** · 10-02-2007, 10:10 AM

If it was dollar for dollar it would be close. Considering the EVO and Mini have a price jump from the start.

**MrTea** · 10-02-2007, 11:58 AM

i think their final track day is either this week or next, but i'm not sure when it first airs. i would guess all taping would be done before they air the 1st episode....but not really a necessity i guess?

**2focusd** · 10-02-2007, 01:44 PM

I'm confident that Ron will alert [FJ] of the show before it airs, afterall this is our family that's gonna be on this season

-Brian

**Draxas** · 10-02-2007, 04:16 PM

Just got a call from one of the Producers of the show notifying me of the date of the final shoot... I wont say where it is or what date it is, for obvious reasons.

In regards to the Focus doing well in the lapping part of the competition.. Considering how fast I know Focus' to be on the road course when properly built, and that this show uses the IMPROVEMENT over stock as the competition, I think the Focus has the edge, just as the Fit had the edge in this category last year. The amount of time Skunk was able to improve their Fit's lap times to compared to a stock Fit was amazing.

**ALIENNATION95GT** · 10-02-2007, 04:26 PM

i dont think it is just about building a more hp car than the other. I think they also focus on making the individual car better than it was!
i mean the last season had a fit vr a mustang no way would the fit (well maybee) be on hp with it! BUt when they did the dynos they looked at gain over stock percentage!

**f2focus** · 10-02-2007, 10:48 PM

By far the Focus can and will have the biggest improvements....I hope they picked the right track for this last event!

**MrTea** · 10-03-2007, 04:06 AM

i know one of the guys from my gf's work will be at the track that day....i should try to sneak in his trunk. it's a really nice trunk, should be ok i think.

**focuspl99** · 10-08-2007, 12:55 PM

bump cuz i cant wait to see this

**Ted7rns** · 10-08-2007, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MrTea

i was at Jetfest2 as well, and attend plenty of NASA Time Trial events.....and Focus sport stomped on some trailored cars. it was damn funny seeing their reactions as it went by them in a blink in some cases.

Not to take away from what FS did with their car at Jetfest2, That car was very fast for a Focus and FS built a great car. But, it still wasn't as fast as Dieter's Evo or the Crawford STi. Of course some of that could have been the suspension.

It's just really hard to compare a Focus with a AWD Turbo Evo, STi or S4. Those things can be monsters. Evo's took the top 3 positions in TTR at NASA Nationals.

**MrTea** · 10-10-2007, 12:59 AM

here's a couple shots....migth see someone you know??

http://fireballtim.com/blog/wp-conte...9/img_5016.JPG

http://fireballtim.com/blog/wp-conte...9/img_5023.JPG

09-30-2007, 02:01 PM	#52
focaljet-1 Small Car Czar Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: On the RotorMedia helipad Posts: 28,834	Re: Street Tuner Challenge season 3 The show is not about absolute power numbers. It's about largest GAIN over stock, and several other factors.

09-30-2007, 02:19 PM	#53
j20000 [FJ] Specialist Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Hopewell, PA (But, San Diego at heart) Posts: 5,912	Re: Street Tuner Challenge season 3 Plus look at the FS 2.3 car....its putting down 380whp. __________________ NEW: 2008 Ford Focus SES - Stock (but Loaded) GONE: -2003 SuperBlack 350z Performance Edition. Bronze Work Emotion CR KAI's w/ Nitto 555's, Nismo Cat-Back Exhaust, Kinetix HFC, Kinetix V+ Intake Manifold, Eibach Sportline Springs, Jim Wolfe Technology/UTR Carbon Fiber Intake, Veilside V1 CF Lip, Stop-Tech Stage 2 Brake Upgrade. LamarWH: who the heck is Ron Paul? BigMacDaddie: Tall skinny black guy that dresses up like a lady... pretty dang hot lady if you ask me!

09-30-2007, 03:06 PM	#55
guitarseth Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Wooster, OH Posts: 2,903	Re: Street Tuner Challenge season 3 The show tries to pit a European car against a Domestic and a Japanese car. There aren't a whole lot of new domestic sport compacts with an aftermarket following that haven't already been put on the show. Heck, even a Mustang was a bit of a stretch. I think its the best decision that Ford has made with the 08 Focus so far! __________________ French Blue 2003 ZX3 Power Premium MTX Mild Naturally Aspirated build - Modded for driving enjoyment My Car Please help me with my engine build, buy my engine parts.

09-30-2007, 04:06 PM	#58
tallguy2.3 [FJ] Specialist Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: AZ Posts: 5,708	Re: Street Tuner Challenge season 3 In any case, this 08 is going to be sick and I think Ford lucked out in getting FS to build this car in the puiblic eye. 08 Focuses will be suddenly much cooler. I have total confidence in FS's work, style, products, and innovation so I think its going to rock. Setting the DVR now.... __________________ Cosworth Valve Springs for Duratec- STILL FOR SALE! http://forums.focaljet.com/power/582...ml#post6572555 Crane Cams for Duratec http://forums.focaljet.com/power/582...ml#post6572543

09-30-2007, 04:18 PM	#60
ZX3autoxtasy Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: atlanta Posts: 4,359	Re: Street Tuner Challenge season 3 True, but people still drive those cars. Anyways, I'm done. It's sure to be cool, and I hope FS builds something sweet. __________________ 2008 Specialized Tarmac:: 0.0mpg with more carbon than your Focus. Pure. Power. 2007 Jamis Ventura Comp:* 0.0mpg 2004 Pitch Black 5spd 2.0L(Z) ZX3: Eibach Pro-Kit Springs, Eibach Pro-Kit Dampers, Brembo Rotors, Hawk HPS Pads, H&R 24mm Rear Swaybar, P-51 Shims, Focus-Sport Cool-Flo, Focus-Sport front & rear stress bar, MBRP Cat-Back, [Track] 15'' Steelies with 205/50/15 Falken Azeni RT-615's,[Street]UK ST200 Mondeo Wheels w/ Toyo Proxes 4 215/45/17's, Quantum Audio 12''/Quantum 800w Amp, Custom Ported Box, SVT Lip, and tons of other stuff...

10-01-2007, 09:24 PM	#61
MrTea TEAM Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 259	Re: Street Tuner Challenge season 3 i was at Jetfest2 as well, and attend plenty of NASA Time Trial events.....and Focus sport stomped on some trailored cars. it was damn funny seeing their reactions as it went by them in a blink in some cases. hopefully they do the track time on Big Willow this year and not streets, if that's the case i think Randy and them have plenty chances to be right with the evo. and who knows, i think i've seen 3 of Skunk's engines grenade in the last 18 months or so.....maybe Charles will put this one a bit too close to the enge as well? as far as the mini, i know they are responsible for the "fastest mini in the world" (over 600hp out of their 1.8)....and they have been building them for a LONG time. i think the further it goes, the more interested i am in this years show! __________________ '03 Mazda6i with a few mods http://members.cardomain.com/mrtea

10-01-2007, 09:39 PM	#62
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10-01-2007, 09:46 PM	#63
OneYoungGun TEAM Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Bentonville, Arkansas Posts: 580	Re: Street Tuner Challenge season 3 So what day is the premier? I have the schedule up but I don't know what is from last season and whats the new season? __________________ 2002 Infrared SVT 1540 of 4788- "Razzo Rosso" 1957 Grey Chevrolet 150 1966 Maroon Mustang Fast-Back

10-02-2007, 10:10 AM	#65
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10-02-2007, 11:58 AM	#66
MrTea TEAM Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 259	Re: Street Tuner Challenge season 3 i think their final track day is either this week or next, but i'm not sure when it first airs. i would guess all taping would be done before they air the 1st episode....but not really a necessity i guess? __________________ '03 Mazda6i with a few mods http://members.cardomain.com/mrtea

10-02-2007, 01:44 PM	#67
2focusd [FJ] Addict Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Uniontown, PA Posts: 12,936	Re: Street Tuner Challenge season 3 I'm confident that Ron will alert [FJ] of the show before it airs, afterall this is our family that's gonna be on this season -Brian __________________ Godspeed, Colin McRae, may you live on forever as the reason countless people fell in love with the Ford Focus (myself included). 1968-2007 http://www.f2focus.com

10-02-2007, 04:16 PM	#68
Draxas Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Palmdale, CA Posts: 1,566	Re: Street Tuner Challenge season 3 Just got a call from one of the Producers of the show notifying me of the date of the final shoot... I wont say where it is or what date it is, for obvious reasons. In regards to the Focus doing well in the lapping part of the competition.. Considering how fast I know Focus' to be on the road course when properly built, and that this show uses the IMPROVEMENT over stock as the competition, I think the Focus has the edge, just as the Fit had the edge in this category last year. The amount of time Skunk was able to improve their Fit's lap times to compared to a stock Fit was amazing. __________________ Nikolas www.RedlineTimeAttack.com www.RedlineTrackEvents.com Host of the Focus Challenge www.FocusChallenge.com

10-02-2007, 04:26 PM	#69
ALIENNATION95GT TEAM Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: BUENA PARK Posts: 179	Re: Street Tuner Challenge season 3 i dont think it is just about building a more hp car than the other. I think they also focus on making the individual car better than it was! i mean the last season had a fit vr a mustang no way would the fit (well maybee) be on hp with it! BUt when they did the dynos they looked at gain over stock percentage! __________________ 2007 MAZDASPEED 3, soon with F2 goodies.

10-02-2007, 10:48 PM	#70
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10-03-2007, 04:06 AM	#71
MrTea TEAM Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 259	Re: Street Tuner Challenge season 3 i know one of the guys from my gf's work will be at the track that day....i should try to sneak in his trunk. it's a really nice trunk, should be ok i think. __________________ '03 Mazda6i with a few mods http://members.cardomain.com/mrtea

10-08-2007, 12:55 PM	#72
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10-10-2007, 12:59 AM	#74
MrTea TEAM Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 259	Re: Street Tuner Challenge season 3 here's a couple shots....migth see someone you know?? http://fireballtim.com/blog/wp-conte...9/img_5016.JPG http://fireballtim.com/blog/wp-conte...9/img_5023.JPG __________________ '03 Mazda6i with a few mods http://members.cardomain.com/mrtea