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Old 04-07-2008, 05:24 PM   #176
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NBC will F it up...if they release it. Their sales guys will go to every car company and pimp the show to Ford/GM/Mopar etc. They will buy ads on the show, and from that point forward, EVERY car they test will be teh bom.
No matter how crappy the product is, the reviews will be excellent because they dont' want to piss off the company's buying the ads.
IT WILL FAIL.

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PS, it might actually have a chance on PBS where they don't have adverts to piss o0ff, but in the end PBS is far too PC to use actual humor on the show.
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Old 04-07-2008, 08:38 PM   #177
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NBC will F it up...if they release it. Their sales guys will go to every car company and pimp the show to Ford/GM/Mopar etc. They will buy ads on the show, and from that point forward, EVERY car they test will be teh bom.
No matter how crappy the product is, the reviews will be excellent because they dont' want to piss off the company's buying the ads.
IT WILL FAIL.

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PS, it might actually have a chance on PBS where they don't have adverts to piss o0ff, but in the end PBS is far too PC to use actual humor on the show.

advertising isnt charity and neither is selling cars.
thats what shows DO.

shows sell paper towels dish soap, and even the super bowl sells what? beer.

american cars and trucks and beer.

gotta keep the communi---the unionists busy and make some good cars so they can afford the beer.

otherwise it would be... well where are you from?
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Old 04-07-2008, 09:01 PM   #178
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^^^ they do it without advertisement in England. Unfortunately thats not how things work here
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Old 04-07-2008, 09:26 PM   #179
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^^^ they do it without advertisement in England. Unfortunately thats not how things work here

Yeah but they pay a tax for that..... its not just free TV.
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Old 04-07-2008, 09:39 PM   #180
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Put me on record.
I would pay tax for no commercials on tv and or a good version of murican(sic) topgear.

although I would still download the original
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Old 04-07-2008, 09:50 PM   #181
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The thing is that in the past just about all British TV just looked CHEAP.
Besides their is plenty of crap TV on the BBC, Top Gear is just one of the good shows.
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Old 04-07-2008, 11:09 PM   #182
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advertising isnt charity and neither is selling cars.
thats what shows DO.

shows sell paper towels dish soap, and even the super bowl sells what? beer.

american cars and trucks and beer.

gotta keep the communi---the unionists busy and make some good cars so they can afford the beer.

otherwise it would be... well where are you from?

Seriously, WTF are you even doing on a forum where thousands of other individuals post up their thoughts and feelings that are, in just about every case, not half as racist, idiotic, biggoted, shallow-minded, paranoid, and hateful as your own?

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Old 04-09-2008, 02:06 AM   #183
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Old 04-09-2008, 11:24 AM   #184
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The thing is that in the past just about all British TV just looked CHEAP.
Besides their is plenty of crap TV on the BBC, Top Gear is just one of the good shows.

Jasonof2000, are you watching BBC 'America', or BBC in the UK? Because if it's the former, it's not a true reflection of what the BBC is. A car programme, or other 'imported' select shows you may be seeing in the USA is hardly the measure of a corporations abilty to produce quality programmes.

I admit the BBC has changed hugely in recent years to compete with trashy home improvement programmes, X Factor and other junk like those 'Super Nanny' programmes - but the BBC still produces some of the best TV programmes in the world, as does BBC Radio....but if you're out of the UK, you never get to see or hear them!

Have you ever heard BBC Radio 4? It's a wonderful relief to turn on the Radio and hear cultured/educated/softly spoken people talking about diverse and complex matters I can tell you. And what I like best, is their chats are about World Issues, not just the UK. So the listener gets a much more balanced view on 'people' in general. Now I admit it's a small proportion of Radio compared to the other junk on British Radio, (Gangsta' Rap etc) but without the BBC, I'd be lost. It's like attending a University lecture in my Kitchen...or car..for that matter. This is the 'old' Britain before Globalisation and Mass Immigration. I agree a lot has changed, and standards have dropped.

Yet, personally I can still watch: BBC University Challenge, News night, Question time, Panorama, Period Drama's, Wildlife programmes. As for Comedy, the BBC seems to produce all the award winning shows: The Office, Little Britain - etc...

Sure we pay $20 tax per month for 'free TV' with no adverts on TV or the Radio, but with respect, I think you may find the BBC has the highest reputation for state broadcast TV in the world compared to other countries, and that includes North America.

I would love to watch American news networks that are non politically biased, well informed of world opinion, and not full of adverts - but that won't ever happen, it's not 'American' to do that. Mostly (from what I gather) American TV is made cut price, volume driven for mass audiences and, well - fast in (ideas) - fast out (Programme). That has it's advantages (price), but also it's limitations (free journalism and consquent unbiased reporting to the population - is constrained).

For example, people say 'Top Gear USA' will never be the same as the British version as critical comments on manufacturers cars won't be allowed - as in the way Clarkson says true, but horrible things about KIA/Chevy. We know that can't be done because the programme isn't state funded - and you won't get
cars back on the show in the next series - if people tell the truth about how bad they are! So, yes it's a catch 22. I say paying the money is better, you get free (and more accurate) journalism at the end of the day, or 'as free' as the state allows should I say, which over here is not too bad in terms of broadcasting/newspapers.

Fox news is so corrupt I could write a Phd on its effects on the mind of people watching. CNN is ok, I watch that every day over here too. Imagine if you had to pay for viewing though? What is on TV becomes more specialist, more accurate, more honest. If TV networks are funded by sponsors, no one will allow slagging off, or 'negative' opinons of anyone - and thus the public is fooled.

So BBC vs American broadcasting during elections: Example.

This is half of the reason George Bush won the election - twice. 50% of Americans (literally) have no idea what the truth is about the world outside the USA, because so much disinformation is put on on your TV channels, you suck it up from day 1 (as kids), naturally believing it's all true. At least if people pay money, then people have a voice, and can complain. Imagine someone complaining to Fox News - nothing would be done! Here, if there are enough complaints, they have to change, or issue an apology at the start of a programme for innacurate facts. To me, that's worth paying for, and mostly, only the BBC do this.

We're both different cultures I understand that. Regarding the BBC, it's desperately trying to cling on to keep the average IQ a little higher - and I like that, it's a good concept - if a failing one!
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Old 04-09-2008, 11:27 AM   #185
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top gear, but with an american cast!

no clarkson, no unionists, no queen.

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=124360

if its any good i might just have to start watching it again...

i like the idea. its needed an american verson for a good bit of time yet.

will it ruin the original? yes please!

If it's missing Clarkson, Unionists, and the Queen, then it's not Top Gear.
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Old 04-09-2008, 12:19 PM   #186
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Old 04-09-2008, 12:21 PM   #187
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Jasonof2000, are you watching BBC 'America', or BBC in the UK? Because if it's the former, it's not a true reflection of what the BBC is. A car programme, or other 'imported' select shows you may be seeing in the USA is hardly the measure of a corporations abilty to produce quality programmes.

I admit the BBC has changed hugely in recent years to compete with trashy home improvement programmes, X Factor and other junk like those 'Super Nanny' programmes - but the BBC still produces some of the best TV programmes in the world, as does BBC Radio....but if you're out of the UK, you never get to see or hear them!

Have you ever heard BBC Radio 4? It's a wonderful relief to turn on the Radio and hear cultured/educated/softly spoken people talking about diverse and complex matters I can tell you. And what I like best, is their chats are about World Issues, not just the UK. So the listener gets a much more balanced view on 'people' in general. Now I admit it's a small proportion of Radio compared to the other junk on British Radio, (Gangsta' Rap etc) but without the BBC, I'd be lost. It's like attending a University lecture in my Kitchen...or car..for that matter. This is the 'old' Britain before Globalisation and Mass Immigration. I agree a lot has changed, and standards have dropped.

Yet, personally I can still watch: BBC University Challenge, News night, Question time, Panorama, Period Drama's, Wildlife programmes. As for Comedy, the BBC seems to produce all the award winning shows: The Office, Little Britain - etc...

Sure we pay $20 tax per month for 'free TV' with no adverts on TV or the Radio, but with respect, I think you may find the BBC has the highest reputation for state broadcast TV in the world compared to other countries, and that includes North America.

I would love to watch American news networks that are non politically biased, well informed of world opinion, and not full of adverts - but that won't ever happen, it's not 'American' to do that. Mostly (from what I gather) American TV is made cut price, volume driven for mass audiences and, well - fast in (ideas) - fast out (Programme). That has it's advantages (price), but also it's limitations (free journalism and consquent unbiased reporting to the population - is constrained).

For example, people say 'Top Gear USA' will never be the same as the British version as critical comments on manufacturers cars won't be allowed - as in the way Clarkson says true, but horrible things about KIA/Chevy. We know that can't be done because the programme isn't state funded - and you won't get
cars back on the show in the next series - if people tell the truth about how bad they are! So, yes it's a catch 22. I say paying the money is better, you get free (and more accurate) journalism at the end of the day, or 'as free' as the state allows should I say, which over here is not too bad in terms of broadcasting/newspapers.

Fox news is so corrupt I could write a Phd on its effects on the mind of people watching. CNN is ok, I watch that every day over here too. Imagine if you had to pay for viewing though? What is on TV becomes more specialist, more accurate, more honest. If TV networks are funded by sponsors, no one will allow slagging off, or 'negative' opinons of anyone - and thus the public is fooled.

So BBC vs American broadcasting during elections: Example.

This is half of the reason George Bush won the election - twice. 50% of Americans (literally) have no idea what the truth is about the world outside the USA, because so much disinformation is put on on your TV channels, you suck it up from day 1 (as kids), naturally believing it's all true. At least if people pay money, then people have a voice, and can complain. Imagine someone complaining to Fox News - nothing would be done! Here, if there are enough complaints, they have to change, or issue an apology at the start of a programme for innacurate facts. To me, that's worth paying for, and mostly, only the BBC do this.

We're both different cultures I understand that. Regarding the BBC, it's desperately trying to cling on to keep the average IQ a little higher - and I like that, it's a good concept - if a failing one!


I've seen both. Pretty much the only news I watch is BBC News. But by cheap I mean like The Office, great show it just looks CHEAP, same with every episode of Red Dwarf (granted that is an old show), no matter what they did and how funny and spectacular the show it just looked like a low budget operation.
When I was staying on a British Frigate I watched some Bo'Selecta and it was hilarious, but again cheap looking.
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I've seen both. Pretty much the only news I watch is BBC News. But by cheap I mean like The Office, great show it just looks CHEAP, same with every episode of Red Dwarf (granted that is an old show), no matter what they did and how funny and spectacular the show it just looked like a low budget operation.
When I was staying on a British Frigate I watched some Bo'Selecta and it was hilarious, but again cheap looking.

You are obviously missing a part of Red Dwarf's humour there, mate.
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Old 04-09-2008, 05:18 PM   #189
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Strange the Edmunds article mentions 'The Queen'. I know it's probably a joke, but still - not uncommon to see, like mentioning Germans and sausages/beer/WW II!

I often read in American forums, people (genuinely) thinking that the English are very touchy/defensive about the Monarchy/Royals. No way! No one gives two hoots about the old bat and her drunk promiscuous family members. It's a all a trick to make tourists pay inflated prices at Horse Gaurds & Buckingham Palace. People are more interested where their next meal is coming from, or how they're going to pay $110 just to fill up their little Ford Focus with a tank of gas!

People are maybe a little in the past if they think 'The Queen' has anything to do with anything at all in terms of feelings being hurt or offended, or any policy going to be passed by Government. She's a puppet figurehead.

I mean it's like me thinking (seriously) that a lot of Americans own a horse and go riding with a revolver at the weekend after drinking moonshine, and we better not say anything potentially nasty about cowboys or 'Americans' will freak.....

Same goes for the Edmunds comments on 'Unionists'. The Conservative party helped destroy any remnents of Socialism in English society (that helped introduce free health care for all ), in the 80's and when challlenged with a crisis (The coal Miners strike for example) they basically set the Police on the miners protesting and forced them back into work. After that, Margaret Thatcher and her successor John Major, sold off most of the state owned infrastructure through the process of 'Privatisation' - which naturally meant a worse deal for customers, and more profits for corporations. Via this, low tax was enabled, and they kept winning elections and remaining in power.

Trade Unions here now have little power as when the Labour Government of Tony Blair took over, he combined 'light' Socialism, with 'Liberal' thinking, and Conservatism - e.g he 'stole' the oppostions policies so nobody will vote for the competition!!. Hence Blair's vision of 'Multi Culturism', 'Faith Schools' etc.

Anyone who is honest, or actually thinks about it for a while (In Britain) will tell you 'Multiculturism' only leads to divisions and Ghetto's - and now, Terrorism.
A total disaster for the power of the Trade Unions was Tony Blair and now Gordon Brown, and they both only make people more selfish and less, well working together with a 'community' spirit like Britain of the 1950's used to have. Big shame. This is the idealistc (I guess flawed) vision I have of Americans. Smiling to their neighbours, being polite and inviting people over for a Bar B Q etc. I only get that impression from TV and the movies.

I think the British have a very out dated view of Americans, and Vice Versa. We've both moved on 30 years and what we 'see' on TV, is not reality for either of us.

Top Gear and Clarkson & May with the random comments they come out with about 'The British' Vs 'The Germans' or 'The Rednecks' are again, pandering to the American market, to make us seem so different from you (when we aren't) they just do this to make the programme more popular - when most of what they say about this country is totally untrue! Also in my view, it gives an unfair view of British people who may have negative thoughts about Americans because of Iraq - and Iraq causing terrorism in Britain - people thus need someone to blame because of their fear - of terrorism, so they blame America. It's stupid of Clarkson to insult Americans quite so strongly, he should insult the CARS, not people who drive them surely. Ohh look, I've gone on rather..... I just think people should get to know each other better around the world, rather than continue stereotypes in the media about each other - and make money off this. E.g 'Top Gear' or 'Top Gear USA'. It should be an American show 100%, with it's own name - nothing to do with Top Gear. It's your country and your cars, not a competition to be 'partly ' British - quite bonkers.
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Wow. You rock.

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Yeah I listen to the show everyday. I don't think he knew at the time what NBC stated. I think a summertime start for the show would be better anyways.

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Yeah I listen to the show everyday. I don't think he knew at the time what NBC stated. I think a summertime start for the show would be better anyways.

I got to agree with you, I'm sure he's busy making episodes to stay on top of when it'll actually air.

About TACS, must be nice to listen to it on the radio...I've got to podcast BTW, are you on the message board? I lurk but don't post.
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I listen to the replay on the HD radio internet channel. Not on the ACS message board tho.

Hope he is busy making TGU.S.A shows now that he's done dancin.

Slightly OT but how hot did Julienne Hough look on the last 2nites!
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Dan Neil...OUT.

The Stig = Tanner Faust??

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Hope he is busy making TGU.S.A shows now that he's done dancin.

Slightly OT but how hot did Julienne Hough look on the last 2nites!

I would stream the show at work but it's blocked by proxi, so I have to podcast.

Also, I don't watch TV...because well, I don't have a TV.
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People are more interested where their next meal is coming from, or how they're going to pay $110 just to fill up their little Ford Focus with a tank of gas!

well, i still say youre a patty cake apologist for your country.

we have guns in our country not (only) for the thugs on the streets, but the thugs who try to take out rights. (domestic or forigen)

$110 american dollars for 14 gallons of gas for a focus---would get americans voting from the rooftops with their rifles.

politicans dont controll the cost of oil, but they can sure tax it, and youre a good example of it. you out there, the happy loved apologist.

what do you pay? 79% tax on it or what?
no wonder we had the tea party!
2.28 here. us gallons.

that is the reason i hate the british.
not the loust weather, not the terrible food, not the *******s...
its the fact thay you guys lay down and do what your told and cant take control of your lives.

oh and youre metric.
metric communist pansies who wasted themselves on big government and big brother.
i can overlook the rest. BUT- weak pushovers. slaves to your queen.
it disgusts me. thats my anti british thesis, right there!

-from the land of "come and take it!" - orionlion82.

which - now - is the exact reason top gear under the queens skirt will fail and in the US it will be reinvented alot better than it was.

the only good top gear episode was with the orange ST.

you guys gotta trust me.