Why am I not surprised - Focaljet

**Rally Man** · 02-20-2008, 08:53 PM

Report: Consumers want cup holders, not fuel economy

**FocusSportVP** · 02-20-2008, 08:56 PM

Damn we are lame.

**polarisman14** · 02-20-2008, 08:56 PM

I would say people are retarded, but that's an insult to the people that are actually mentally challenged. I am ditching my grandpas dakota that gets 14 miles to the gallon in favor of a 2.3L ranger that gets 25, this weekend. Count me out on the cupholders preference.

**MattZTS** · 02-20-2008, 09:57 PM

crap i wish i didnt have cupholder. all the do is gather crumpled receipts and change.

**Johnny_P** · 02-20-2008, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MattZTS

crap i wish i didnt have cupholder. all the do is gather crumpled receipts and change.

QFT. Mine are nasty

**hksvt_03** · 02-20-2008, 10:00 PM

^^yeah, all they are good for is trash and loose change....crap I don't want in my car anyway.

**polarisman14** · 02-20-2008, 10:14 PM

Please PM me if you want a place to mail all your spare change--take the postage out of said change.

**Thameth** · 02-20-2008, 10:57 PM

I call a bunch of crap and BS on this stupid report. I wish people would stop listening to this crap.... Whenever you actually get the details of how some of these market research and focus group reports are done you'll see its a total waste of time. Sadly people believe them till the cows come home.

**BRZX3R** · 02-21-2008, 06:35 AM

I recently read a review of the Astra in the Detroit Free Press, and they complained about the cupholders and no spot for an iPod to be plugged in. The article said it missed the mark for what American consumers want. I could care less if my iPod hooks into my car, and I own a Focus, so I am used to having to buy special cups to fit the cupholders anyway. Really, we need to get back to car "basics".

**91stang302** · 02-21-2008, 08:16 AM

Yeah what the hell is it with people and their damn ipod?? I will never buy satellite radio and I haven't bought a new CD in years. I am quite happy with my FM channels. FREE FM channels that is.

Maybe I'm just 23 and old school.

And furthermore, what is with people and their music in general? Everything is tuned for music now. SYNC system ipod adapters. Every tool between the age of 13-17 (and plenty of others) have their earbud earphones in at all time no matter where they are. Get some F'ing social skills. I like music just as much as the next but I don't find it necessary to listen to it everywhere I go.

Sorry for the rant.

And now for a comment on topic...statistics can be twisted to say whatever you like them to. Although I do believe that there are people stupid enough to prefer cupholders over gas mileage.

**EggYolkBill** · 02-21-2008, 09:35 AM

Well, basics could mean many things. Cars were originally built to replace horses. They were intended to just be a form of transportation. Most people still look at them this way. Just because we are more enthusiastic about them doesn't equate to the general public feeling this way.

As far as the iPod/Satellite Radio it's the same thing. Although you might not want an iPod/Satellite Radio, I wouldn't drive a car without BOTH. It's all a matter of what makes your drive to work, etc... a better experience.

**Shun** · 02-21-2008, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by MattZTS

crap i wish i didnt have cupholder. all the do is gather crumpled receipts and change.

LOL heck yea!!!

**Shun** · 02-21-2008, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by polarisman14

Please PM me if you want a place to mail all your spare change--take the postage out of said change.

LOL you pan handler j/k

**wilko** · 02-21-2008, 11:48 AM

You wouldnt drive that thing Mr Garrison (from South Park) made because it is Fuel efficient?

So what's so bad about being comfortable and enjoying your drive to and fro?

**MattZTS** · 02-21-2008, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 91stang302

Yeah what the hell is it with people and their damn ipod?? I will never buy satellite radio and I haven't bought a new CD in years. I am quite happy with my FM channels. FREE FM channels that is.

Maybe I'm just 23 and old school.

And furthermore, what is with people and their music in general? Everything is tuned for music now. SYNC system ipod adapters. Every tool between the age of 13-17 (and plenty of others) have their earbud earphones in at all time no matter where they are. Get some F'ing social skills. I like music just as much as the next but I don't find it necessary to listen to it everywhere I go.

Sorry for the rant.

And now for a comment on topic...statistics can be twisted to say whatever you like them to. Although I do believe that there are people stupid enough to prefer cupholders over gas mileage.

obviously if you havent bought a cd in years, you are not a music fan.

i wish an ipod hooked up to my mustang. i hate fm radio. nothing i like is ever on.

i only use my ipod once a week. on truck night i put it on the speaker dock thingy. hit page and my ipod plays thru the whole store. its much better than cvs radio.

the other truck night my ipod wasnt working. omg time went so slow not having real music.

and polarisman. sorry every month or so. i pick up all the change that accumulates in the cupholders and floor,and put it in this jug i have. last time i went to the coinstar at commerce i got $140.

**Shun** · 02-21-2008, 12:16 PM

hey.. just because he hasn't bought a cd in years doesn't mean he's not a music fan.. maybe he's a music pirate!

**91stang302** · 02-21-2008, 12:26 PM

[/quote=MattZTS]obviously if you havent bought a cd in years, you are not a music fan.

[/quote]

Thats not true its called illegal downloads. Don't see the point of buying a CD that usually only has a couple good songs and costs 10-15 or whatever the hell they cost now.

**91stang302** · 02-21-2008, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Shun

hey.. just because he hasn't bought a cd in years doesn't mean he's not a music fan.. maybe he's a music pirate!

Exactly...a suashbuckling one at that

**polarisman14** · 02-21-2008, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Shun

LOL you pan handler j/k

You laugh, but I'm paying for like half of my 10 day long trip out to cali this summer with spare change

**Thameth** · 02-21-2008, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Shun

hey.. just because he hasn't bought a cd in years doesn't mean he's not a music fan.. maybe he's a music pirate!

And why would that be??? Ever heard of iTunes, Amazon, EMusic, Walmart, etc...?? Billions of songs sold.....

**OmniFocus** · 02-21-2008, 01:25 PM

I buy used CDs and rip them.... great value and totally legal as long as I don't share the files.

**hotrodkris** · 02-21-2008, 01:27 PM

iPod + audiobook = great for making the time fly by on long trips.

My cupholders in the vic are full of dried flowers that Rylie picks for me.

**Thameth** · 02-21-2008, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by hotrodkris

iPod + Podcasts = great for making the time fly by on long trips.

My version of the same statement.....

**EggYolkBill** · 02-21-2008, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MattZTS

i wish an ipod hooked up to my mustang. i hate fm radio. nothing i like is ever on.

You can get an AUX-IN adapter for your car. It will allow you to have a direct input to your sound system.

**rpvitiello** · 02-21-2008, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 91stang302

Yeah what the hell is it with people and their damn ipod?? I will never buy satellite radio and I haven't bought a new CD in years. I am quite happy with my FM channels. FREE FM channels that is.

Maybe I'm just 23 and old school.

And furthermore, what is with people and their music in general? Everything is tuned for music now. SYNC system ipod adapters. Every tool between the age of 13-17 (and plenty of others) have their earbud earphones in at all time no matter where they are. Get some F'ing social skills. I like music just as much as the next but I don't find it necessary to listen to it everywhere I go.

Sorry for the rant.

And now for a comment on topic...statistics can

02-20-2008, 08:53 PM	#1
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polarisman14 Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Henniker, NH Posts: 2,878	Re: Why am I not surprised I would say people are retarded, but that's an insult to the people that are actually mentally challenged. I am ditching my grandpas dakota that gets 14 miles to the gallon in favor of a 2.3L ranger that gets 25, this weekend. Count me out on the cupholders preference. __________________ --UnFocused1-- --01 Focus "FCS-PWR" 300whp Work-In-Progress-- <95 Ranger "SLOWNLO" Project #2> >86 Ninja 250R "GOPED" 60+mpg bullet<

02-20-2008, 09:57 PM	#4
MattZTS [FJ] Specialist Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Clifton, NJ Posts: 5,226	Re: Why am I not surprised crap i wish i didnt have cupholder. all the do is gather crumpled receipts and change. __________________ 2005 satin silver mustang v6

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hksvt_03 TEAM Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Northern Iowa Posts: 315	Re: Why am I not surprised ^^yeah, all they are good for is trash and loose change....crap I don't want in my car anyway. __________________ "Never, under any circumstance, is it a good idea to stir fry naked." JCM Racing #136

02-20-2008, 10:14 PM	#7
polarisman14 Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Henniker, NH Posts: 2,878	Re: Why am I not surprised Please PM me if you want a place to mail all your spare change--take the postage out of said change. __________________ --UnFocused1-- --01 Focus "FCS-PWR" 300whp Work-In-Progress-- <95 Ranger "SLOWNLO" Project #2> >86 Ninja 250R "GOPED" 60+mpg bullet<

02-20-2008, 10:57 PM	#8
Thameth Administrator Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: North Miami Beach, FL USA Posts: 37,247	Re: Why am I not surprised I call a bunch of crap and BS on this stupid report. I wish people would stop listening to this crap.... Whenever you actually get the details of how some of these market research and focus group reports are done you'll see its a total waste of time. Sadly people believe them till the cows come home. __________________ www.JosephRegner.com http://twitter.com/JRegner Average gasoline prices around the world

02-21-2008, 06:35 AM	#9
BRZX3R Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan, USA Posts: 2,672	Re: Why am I not surprised I recently read a review of the Astra in the Detroit Free Press, and they complained about the cupholders and no spot for an iPod to be plugged in. The article said it missed the mark for what American consumers want. I could care less if my iPod hooks into my car, and I own a Focus, so I am used to having to buy special cups to fit the cupholders anyway. Really, we need to get back to car "basics". __________________ 2003 Pitch Black SVTF 3-door EAP #1339 of 3985 Tuned by FocusSport K & N filter, 17" Axis Touring Cup wheels, FS UDP, VF Transmission mount, and Steeda STS Torque: Helping little people get things done with a lot of D, much less F.

02-21-2008, 08:16 AM	#10
91stang302 TEAM Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 548	Re: Why am I not surprised Yeah what the hell is it with people and their damn ipod?? I will never buy satellite radio and I haven't bought a new CD in years. I am quite happy with my FM channels. FREE FM channels that is. Maybe I'm just 23 and old school. And furthermore, what is with people and their music in general? Everything is tuned for music now. SYNC system ipod adapters. Every tool between the age of 13-17 (and plenty of others) have their earbud earphones in at all time no matter where they are. Get some F'ing social skills. I like music just as much as the next but I don't find it necessary to listen to it everywhere I go. Sorry for the rant. And now for a comment on topic...statistics can be twisted to say whatever you like them to. Although I do believe that there are people stupid enough to prefer cupholders over gas mileage. __________________ 1991 Vortech'd Mustang - Too Much to List 2003 SVT Focus - Nothing to List "Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races" --Mr. Shelby--

02-21-2008, 11:48 AM	#14
wilko Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: WNY Posts: 1,290	Re: Why am I not surprised You wouldnt drive that thing Mr Garrison (from South Park) made because it is Fuel efficient? So what's so bad about being comfortable and enjoying your drive to and fro?

02-21-2008, 12:16 PM	#16
Shun TEAM Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: North Hollywood, CA Posts: 348	Re: Why am I not surprised hey.. just because he hasn't bought a cd in years doesn't mean he's not a music fan.. maybe he's a music pirate!

02-21-2008, 12:26 PM	#17
91stang302 TEAM Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 548	Re: Why am I not surprised [/quote=MattZTS]obviously if you havent bought a cd in years, you are not a music fan. [/quote] Thats not true its called illegal downloads. Don't see the point of buying a CD that usually only has a couple good songs and costs 10-15 or whatever the hell they cost now. __________________ 1991 Vortech'd Mustang - Too Much to List 2003 SVT Focus - Nothing to List "Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races" --Mr. Shelby--

02-21-2008, 01:25 PM	#21
OmniFocus Moderator Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Mowin' down the cones. (CA) Posts: 25,668	Re: Why am I not surprised I buy used CDs and rip them.... great value and totally legal as long as I don't share the files. __________________ Vacuum Vulture Racing: We put the "rad" in scrub radius, and the "ack" in ackerman.

02-21-2008, 01:27 PM	#22
hotrodkris I wanna cast Magic Missile! Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: MY LOVE FOR YOU IS LIKE A TRUCK! Posts: 26,451	Re: Why am I not surprised iPod + audiobook = great for making the time fly by on long trips. My cupholders in the vic are full of dried flowers that Rylie picks for me.