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Old 03-25-2008, 04:44 PM   #1
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Default New king of FWD?

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FullTests/articleId=125288?tid=edmunds.il.home.photopanel..1 .*

well Is it time to pass it along?
It is a sad day, but we all know you cannot stay at the top forever, and someone is always gunning for your spot.

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this is a kick in the nuts for me "this is the only car under $25,000 that has launch control."
Damn I can use that with 280btq
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You pull the Cobalt SS onto the drag strip and switch the stability control into competition mode. At this point, the DIC (GM's awkward way of saying "Driver Information Center") flashes the happy message: "Launch Control." You put the clutch in, select 1st gear and push the gas pedal to the floor. The Cobalt's computer will immediately rev the engine to 5,100 rpm, and all you have to do is work the clutch


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Old 03-25-2008, 05:02 PM   #2
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damn, no lift up shifting too!!! this thing is gunna be an awesome little drag car
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Old 03-25-2008, 05:05 PM   #3
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I've tried no-lift shifts. The zetec head doesn't flow enough air at the top to even threaten a rev-limiter tap
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Old 03-25-2008, 05:18 PM   #4
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That would be awsome on the mush.... On a FWD that's gonna be deadily for anybody who underestimates it.
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Old 03-25-2008, 05:20 PM   #5
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I don't find it aesthetically pleasing, but I can't deny that it is one kick-ass little car.

Go Chevy!
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Old 03-25-2008, 05:22 PM   #6
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dang, and i thought i was set on an astra or mazdaspeed3 come next year
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Old 03-25-2008, 05:22 PM   #7
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and it comes with brembo 4 piston calipers up front with i believe 12.4 inch rotors
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Old 03-25-2008, 05:32 PM   #8
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This is all great news and such, but will GM honor it's warranty if used for racing events?
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Old 03-25-2008, 05:47 PM   #9
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looks like an awesome USED car for me
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Old 03-25-2008, 05:53 PM   #10
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Wow. That looks like some great competition for the MazdaSpeed 3. I think the 3 looks better, but performance can't be argued.
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Old 03-25-2008, 06:08 PM   #11
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Wow...that DIC stuff sounds pretty impressive.
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Old 03-25-2008, 06:11 PM   #12
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Wow. That looks like some great competition for the MazdaSpeed 3.

Unless you want to carry something.
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Old 03-25-2008, 06:16 PM   #13
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Still have torsion-beam, huh?
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Old 03-25-2008, 06:32 PM   #14
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Still have torsion-beam, huh?
Yeah, but allegedly it was pulling some ungodly times at the ring. They may have just made it ueber-stiff to compensate, but I wouldn't count it out in the handling department until we see some side-by-side lapping comparison tests.
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Old 03-25-2008, 06:39 PM   #15
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I guess they named their iDrive-ish drivers system after the people who buy them.
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Old 03-25-2008, 06:43 PM   #16
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Yeah, but allegedly it was pulling some ungodly times at the ring. They may have just made it ueber-stiff to compensate, but I wouldn't count it out in the handling department until we see some side-by-side lapping comparison tests.

I would just think that the way my Lumina handled........in 1993. They may put a little more money into that department than just getting more HP out of it. Though maybe they are just punching straight line for it. And you're right, comparisons or even driving it at the AutoShow in Motion would be more telling. But, I do have $2k in GM card earnings so it would be nice to get something for it sometime down the road.
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Old 03-25-2008, 07:05 PM   #17
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torsion-beam is not such a bad thing.

The Clio 197 cup has it and its one of the best handling hatches ever.
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Old 03-25-2008, 07:06 PM   #18
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I think I'd still take an MS3, the performance is close enough for me to better consider the MS3's other more endearing qualities. Besides, I could just mod the sucker, lol..
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Old 03-25-2008, 07:16 PM   #19
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late to the party. better late than never I suppose. Now its time to call Borg Warner and buy a DSG from them.

Ford is miles away from DSG and launch control. They will be stuck with Getrag, having to reinvent the DSG because of they rocky relationship with BW. too bad for Ford.

I think the cobalt has come a long ways in terms of a complete car. I wish it had the DSG and even better, an AWD option, but at least the other aspects of the car have improved. The pictures show an interior that is using a higher quality materiel and less of the trademark ugly GM styling. If the steering wheel is actual centered to the driver in this chevy, I'll consider that a major win for the GM group.

The overall look of the car is ok. I still dislike the corporate chevy trademarks but all things in time.
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Old 03-25-2008, 07:44 PM   #20
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this car seems so amazing, but i dont think i'd be able to get over the horrid interior to buy it......and the fact i probably couldnt carry much inside it

probably ms3 for me (unless they put the cobalt SS goodness into an astra )
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Old 03-25-2008, 09:07 PM   #21
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this car seems so amazing, but i dont think i'd be able to get over the horrid interior to buy it......and the fact i probably couldnt carry much inside it

probably ms3 for me (unless they put the cobalt SS goodness into an astra )

I'm digging the HHR SS for that very reason. All the good parts of the Cobalt SS in a far more practical package.

Actually thinking about it the Cobalt SS has all the HHR SS goodness packed into an ugly little car.
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Old 03-25-2008, 09:45 PM   #22
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yeah, this will definitly be competition for the focus sv......... oh wait, that's right. ford bent over and took it up the tail pipe on this.
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This is all great news and such, but will GM honor it's warranty if used for racing events?

Does any car company warranty any car if used in racing events?




Lol. Not really. Maybe Ferrari.
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Old 03-25-2008, 09:54 PM   #24
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Old 03-25-2008, 09:56 PM   #25
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The Cobalt is still one of the ugliest cars on the road in my mind, so I'll still never own one. On the other hand though, I'm REALLY hoping that this package takes off and sells like crazy; Saturn Astra RedLine FTMFW

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