Want to see the 2009 Focus? *Pics added!

[Pak]

Originally Posted by Mr. Zetec

Is this it?

Is this really that hard to make? That is an absolutely gorgeous car. What Ford presented in my previous post is just atrocious.

[Justin04]

^That focus looks good but has many traits of a Honda accord... The 09 focus is definitely an improvement over the 08 but I won't be sold till I see a hatch, which I'll at least have to wait for a global design I'm sure.

[fubar]

ok, so was anything revealed at focus sport today other then the same info that was given earlier?? Is focus sport offering power upgrades through ford??

[jrgtrain]

Originally Posted by Chalz

I don't know what many of you who are still slamming it were expecting. I've come to the conclusion that there are many people on this board that will never be happy with anything that Ford ever does...unless of course they bring an exact replica of the Euro Ford Focus ST for $25,000. Of course, then you'll probably bitch about it not being right hand drive.

It's absolutely awesome that Ford is listening to a lot of comments from the consumer and enthusiast world, but you also have to realize that if they were to give us all exactly what we wanted, we'd end up with this:

Yes, it stinks that it's not a hatchback, but it's still a damned fine automobile whether you like it or not.

This statement is 100% correct. Well stated... The car looks good...

[orionlion82]

Originally Posted by fubar

ok, so was anything revealed at focus sport today other then the same info that was given earlier?? Is focus sport offering power upgrades through ford??

as californian as they are i dont expect they would be short on substance.

nobody would swallow if they just said "lookit the pretty car!"

this is FS we are talking about now.

they gotta be up to somethin.

[adamw]

Originally Posted by MattZTS

i agree with chalz. everyone here wants a car that is impossible. they want a euro looking focus, turbo, awd, and cost less than 20k.

I wish everyone would stop saying they know what everyone else wants.

Look, last time I checked the ST was NOT AWD! What I want is the ST, and I don't want it for 17K, I want it for the same price as a Mazdaspeed 3, the other Front Drive Turbo hatch that is sold here but who's exterior does not apeal to me! So go to hell everyone who says I'm being unreasonable! If the RS comes here, I should expect it to be priced to compete against the rest of the econo cars gone AWD Turbo, ie STi, EVO...

[adamw]

Originally Posted by chaz493

Here is my quick crack at it

Those little chages make the front look a lot nicer, it's like they were trying to hard with the front. I would also get rid of the middle bump in the hood.

[focaljet-1]

Check out the front page of Focaljet www.focaljet.com for pics of the reveal at FocusSport for Focaljet members.

More pics coming.

[CheckMyVitals]

Originally Posted by Osiris

Focuses in Europe aren't marketed to the same group of people that they are over here, Fiestas are.

You can't buy the Focus over there if you're on a student's budget either.

Ford could probably end this arguement once and for all if the Focus over here was simply named something else. Then people wouldn't confuse the two completely different cars with one another.

... I can purchase or lease a '09 Focus on a student budget right now.
How do you figure the Focus SHOULD be different? '00 - '04 went quite well selling the same car.

Originally Posted by MattZTS

i agree with chalz. everyone here wants a car that is impossible. they want a euro looking focus, turbo, awd, and cost less than 20k.

Please. Quote someone from this thread asking for that.
Find ONE.

Originally Posted by adamw

I wish everyone would stop saying they know what everyone else wants.

Look, last time I checked the ST was NOT AWD! What I want is the ST, and I don't want it for 17K, I want it for the same price as a Mazdaspeed 3, the other Front Drive Turbo hatch that is sold here but who's exterior does not apeal to me! So go to hell everyone who says I'm being unreasonable! If the RS comes here, I should expect it to be priced to compete against the rest of the econo cars gone AWD Turbo, ie STi, EVO...

Thank you. I'm not sure WHY people keep bringing up pricing as the argument against us, I still am unable to find one person in this thread that demanded a cheap AWD ST.

Once again guys, it's really easy to argue a point no one is making. Try arguing the point that IS being made: we're looking for Ford to treat Ford of NA the same as Ford EU (when it comes to the Focus anyway). Same update globally. Relatively similar options. The argument that's being made against us makes it seem that we ONLY want the ST.

Originally Posted by focaljet-1

Check out the front page of Focaljet www.focaljet.com for pics of the reveal at FocusSport for Focaljet members.

More pics coming.

More pics definitely need to come. I can't wait to see what FS is doing with this

[2focusd]

I think I'm truly gonna be torn between the '09 SES coupe and the '09 Honda Fit Sport; this one's gonna come down to dealer personalities and test drives

-Brian

[jinstall]

I am going to pass and wait till 2010.

[guitarseth]

Has it been mentioned what trim levels the new treatment will be available on? I was initially under the impression that it was going to be for all coupes, but its sounding a bit more like its a package? Any info?

[2focusd]

I do believe that it's only available on the SES model, so it's sort of like an SAP.

-Brian

[Z63R]

jinstall

I am going to pass and wait till 2010.

We here in North America won't see the new global-market Focus for sale until 2011, according to Sam De La Garza, Focus Brand Manager at Ford Motor Company.

[fubar]

so is focus sport doing anything with ford on the 09'???

[Thameth]

Originally Posted by Z63R

We here in North America won't see the new global-market Focus for sale until 2011, according to Sam De La Garza, Focus Brand Manager at Ford Motor Company.

So they've pushed it back to 2012MY huh....

[airforcefocus]

Originally Posted by Thameth

So they've pushed it back to 2012MY huh....

I believe he meant 2011 Model year.

[frdfocszx3]

People forget that Mexico is also part of North America, the MKII Focus can be purchased there. It's just us US Americans that cannot purchase one. For some strange reason. I will wait until the day that we North Americans of the US can also purchase one. That 09 US American Focus SES is a NAH!

[adamw]

I alreadly mentioned this but you can't get it in Chile either, Chile's kind of like the USA of Latin America. But you probably can't get it anywhere in South America.

[blackbird]

Originally Posted by airforcefocus

I believe he meant 2011 Model year.

I asked for clarification and was told it will be a MY 2012 available in 2011 and the Fiesta should be a MY 2011 (in other words a year before the new Focus). That's still pretty far out so maybe we'll get lucky and they'll try to push up the schedule, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

[SuRrEaLNJ]

Ya know, i never really noticed the similarity between the NA05+ and the euro of the same years, but i can see it.
Truth be told, and im probably gonna get stoned for this, i like the 05+ better than the 00-04. I never really got passed that interior, wich always bothered me for some odd reason.
Ford of Europe has a completely different thing going on over there than we do, and i dont forsee them ever bringing whats wanted from there here. Even if and when they go global platform theres still probably going to be some changes made for NA, it seems atleast to me that there always is to some degree.
I want a Euro ranger, but i know well never see that truck here, its not what the american buying public truely want, although theres alot of ranger-based-vehicle guys who would love to see it.
The new 09 coupe is a redesign that wont theoretically hinder any of the sales that the 08 has going for it, and yet opn it up to apease some of us, and i think from a business standpoint its a good move for them.

[Chalz]

Originally Posted by blackbird

I asked for clarification and was told it will be a MY 2012 available in 2011 and the Fiesta should be a MY 2011 (in other words a year before the new Focus). That's still pretty far out so maybe we'll get lucky and they'll try to push up the schedule, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

See, that sounds like a good plan, though. If they are going to push the Focus as the upscale compact in America, they need a replacement. I would imagine they are going to slip the Fiesta in right where the Focus is now, and up the price/options of the Focus that year. After a year of the Fiesta being out (effectively taking the place of the Focus in the market) the newer, more refined, more expensive and higher quality Focus will be debuted. This will take a few years of reputation building. Ford is definetely on the right track for un-cheapening the Focus to a point where the current Euro Focus could establish a market dominance in America, while also giving adequate time to slip something else (Fiesta) into the spot the Focus will leave void.

[fubar]

The biggest impact on ford doing the next focus (2012) more euro then american will be the success of the new saturn astra. that is identical to the euro model so if this thing struggles to sell then ford will be more hesitant to make the focus closer to euro flavor then american. Everyone needs to buy a new astra (sell it back the next day)

[adamw]

I could see the Focus appea