400hp 87' mustang LX that gets 80mpg - Focaljet

**fubar** · 07-02-2008, 11:51 AM

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/07/02/l...g-with-400-hp/

If this is true then

**OmniFocus** · 07-02-2008, 11:56 AM

As always, I'm a skeptic, but hoping to be pleasantly surprised.

**Z63R** · 07-02-2008, 11:57 AM

No 87-foot Mustang's gonna see 80 mpg.

**bigdaddyzx3** · 07-02-2008, 11:57 AM

I think someone just got their 15 minutes and nothing more.

**KonaZXIII** · 07-02-2008, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z63R

No 87-foot Mustang's gonna see 80 mpg.

**Maxximtl** · 07-02-2008, 12:13 PM

In this article he said it gets 110mpg. I am guessing both numbers are totally fabricated. All cars that have pushed the upper limits on fuel economy needed the aid of low weight and slippery aerodynamics to do it. The Mustang has neither.

http://www.10news.com/automotive/16768626/detail.html

I am always a little leary when these people make bold claims, yet can't explain any of the technology used to achieve the results...or have any patents for the technology.

**hatched** · 07-02-2008, 12:40 PM

This was on the local news here this morning.

**chewbacca** · 07-02-2008, 01:17 PM

i think that guys from Salt Lake cus it was on the local news here last night. they said 110 also.

that thing must have the tallest gears in the world!! probably does 60mph at like 900rpm.

**sicko** · 07-02-2008, 01:20 PM

april 1st was three months ago

**panchocito** · 07-02-2008, 01:20 PM

what?!

**poondobber** · 07-02-2008, 02:53 PM

I am thinking that he has cylinder deactivation so he can go down to 1 cylinder. Then he has 1 speed transmission with a really tall gear. And he has a gigantic flywheel that keeps the car moving on the highway. And he stripped out the entire interior and replaced the body panels with carbon fiber. And replaced the glass with Saran wrap. And the wheels/tires are as skinny as bicycle tires. And the body magically tranforms into something that looks like Flight of the Navigator.

Then maybe, just maybe, he can get 110mpg.

**Jibberish18** · 07-02-2008, 02:57 PM

Riiiiiight. And I'll bet he start from 3rd gear and shifts directly to 5th all day long. Which might be possible considering the torque?

**focuspl99** · 07-02-2008, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poondobber

I am thinking that he has cylinder deactivation so he can go down to 1 cylinder. Then he has 1 speed transmission with a really tall gear. And he has a gigantic flywheel that keeps the car moving on the highway. And he stripped out the entire interior and replaced the body panels with carbon fiber. And replaced the glass with Saran wrap. And the wheels/tires are as skinny as bicycle tires. And the body magically tranforms into something that looks like Flight of the Navigator.

Then maybe, just maybe, he can get 110mpg.

FTW

**TXFO** · 07-02-2008, 06:20 PM

E85 runs at 9:1 AFR. It would get even better gas mileage if it ran on regular gas.

of course this is all BS anyway.

I miss the good old days when people made up tall tales about what they run in the quarter mile or what amazing car they beat with their bucket. The MPG lies just arent as much fun.

**MattZTS** · 07-02-2008, 06:26 PM

^ok let me tell you about the time i beat a gallardo

**FORDSVTPARTS** · 07-02-2008, 08:25 PM

I'd love to see it verified by an independent lab.

I bet it couldn't get 110 miles per gallon idling in neutral being towed behind a truck.

**Liquid_02_ZX3** · 07-02-2008, 09:40 PM

My 92GT was horrible on gas.

347 Stroker
AFR Heads
Custom grind comp cam
Edelbrock RPM II upper and lower intake manifold
70MM TB
76MM C&L MAF
Full MSD Ignition
30Lb injectors
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1 5/8" Shorty headers
2 1/2" offroad H pipe with flowmaster 40's
3.73 gears
mini spool
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I am sure there is more

I was getting 10 MPG on pump gas as high as 13mpg as low as 7mpg. I don't see 80mpg happening.

Unless someone finally figured out to make electronic valve actuators "camless engines" that can cope with engine heat. Imagine variable valve lift, infinite timing adjustability. Maximum torque and horsepower at every rpm. This technology has been out for a while I believe it was GM that was cranking out 400hp and 75mpg out of a 4 cylinder over 10 years ago.

So combine this technology with turbo charging and direct injection and hybrid technology. And we are talking potentially 200mpg under ideal conditions. The technology is here, someone has to do something about it.

**Lifeguardjoe** · 07-03-2008, 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattZTS

^ok let me tell you about the time i beat a gallardo

I have in my termi, they're not that fast...

**wilko** · 07-03-2008, 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z63R

No 87-foot Mustang's gonna see 80 mpg.

TRUE DAT!

Must be 80 gallons per mile.

**wilko** · 07-03-2008, 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liquid_02_ZX3

My 92GT was horrible on gas.

347 Stroker
AFR Heads
Custom grind comp cam
Edelbrock RPM II upper and lower intake manifold
70MM TB
76MM C&L MAF
Full MSD Ignition
30Lb injectors
255 Walbro
Aeromotive billet fuel rails
1 5/8" Shorty headers
2 1/2" offroad H pipe with flowmaster 40's
3.73 gears
mini spool
Tremec 3550
I am sure there is more

I was getting 10 MPG on pump gas as high as 13mpg as low as 7mpg. I don't see 80mpg happening.

Unless someone finally figured out to make electronic valve actuators "camless engines" that can cope with engine heat. Imagine variable valve lift, infinite timing adjustability. Maximum torque and horsepower at every rpm. This technology has been out for a while I believe it was GM that was cranking out 400hp and 75mpg out of a 4 cylinder over 10 years ago.

So combine this technology with turbo charging and direct injection and hybrid technology. And we are talking potentially 200mpg under ideal conditions. The technology is here, someone has to do something about it.

You see you did somthing he didn't do. You actually started and drove the car.

**UselessKnowledge** · 07-03-2008, 06:42 PM

I met the guy in Milan at the NMRA race on Father's Day. We talked for a few minutes, but I didn't put him and the car together until this article started hitting the news.

I did see that car, but not what was under the hood. In the little free time I had while not "working", there was a bunch of people to meet with, and a buttload of cool Mustangs to check out. Ford Racing and Saleen's booths were sweet.

**SVT04EAP** · 07-03-2008, 06:46 PM

Myth Busters anyone?

**wilko** · 07-03-2008, 07:00 PM

^ Sure. I think they would have to blow the car they build up after proving/busting the myth.

07-02-2008, 11:51 AM	#1
fubar Senior TEAM Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: TUCSON, AZ, USA Posts: 1,892	400hp 87' mustang LX that gets 80mpg http://www.autoblog.com/2008/07/02/l...g-with-400-hp/ If this is true then __________________ for those who question religion, look at the picture of the molecule (laminin) that holds the human body together 2004 zx5 svt eap cd silver Mods:Eibach pro-kit, steeda strut tower brace, xcal2, custom exhaust system (magnaflow resonator, flowmaster muffler, 2.5" tubing), K&N SRI, dyno soon to come

07-02-2008, 11:56 AM	#2
OmniFocus Moderator Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Mowin' down the cones. (CA) Posts: 25,823	Re: 400hp 87' mustang LX that gets 80mpg As always, I'm a skeptic, but hoping to be pleasantly surprised. __________________ Check out the shiny new PirateNinjasWithLasers.com for the latest updates in 24 Hours of LeMons goodness. Vacuum Vulture Racing: We put the "rad" in scrub radius, and the "ack" in ackerman.

07-02-2008, 11:57 AM	#3
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07-02-2008, 12:13 PM	#6
Maxximtl [FJ] Specialist Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: In the trunk Posts: 5,659	Re: 400hp 87' mustang LX that gets 80mpg In this article he said it gets 110mpg. I am guessing both numbers are totally fabricated. All cars that have pushed the upper limits on fuel economy needed the aid of low weight and slippery aerodynamics to do it. The Mustang has neither. http://www.10news.com/automotive/16768626/detail.html I am always a little leary when these people make bold claims, yet can't explain any of the technology used to achieve the results...or have any patents for the technology.

07-02-2008, 12:40 PM	#7
hatched [FJ] Specialist Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 6,814	Re: 400hp 87' mustang LX that gets 80mpg This was on the local news here this morning. __________________ Subcompact Culture The Small Car Blog.

07-02-2008, 01:17 PM	#8
chewbacca mani i love dongs Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Tempe AZ, Spring Creek NV Posts: 6,712	Re: 400hp 87' mustang LX that gets 80mpg i think that guys from Salt Lake cus it was on the local news here last night. they said 110 also. that thing must have the tallest gears in the world!! probably does 60mph at like 900rpm. __________________ 2001 ZX3 FS/VF Supercharged (been so long i can't remember the power figures...) SV1000S-HOLY BALLS I'M FAST NOW! 1948 Willys CJ-2A - God i wish i could sell this thing!! JCM Racing #666- The Millenium Falcon

07-02-2008, 01:20 PM	#9
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07-02-2008, 01:20 PM	#10
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07-02-2008, 02:53 PM	#11
poondobber Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: In your girlfriends pants Posts: 1,022	Re: 400hp 87' mustang LX that gets 80mpg I am thinking that he has cylinder deactivation so he can go down to 1 cylinder. Then he has 1 speed transmission with a really tall gear. And he has a gigantic flywheel that keeps the car moving on the highway. And he stripped out the entire interior and replaced the body panels with carbon fiber. And replaced the glass with Saran wrap. And the wheels/tires are as skinny as bicycle tires. And the body magically tranforms into something that looks like Flight of the Navigator. Then maybe, just maybe, he can get 110mpg.

07-02-2008, 02:57 PM	#12
Jibberish18 Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Chicago Posts: 4,222	Re: 400hp 87' mustang LX that gets 80mpg Riiiiiight. And I'll bet he start from 3rd gear and shifts directly to 5th all day long. Which might be possible considering the torque? __________________ "If You Never Had The Bad Times, How Would You Know You Had The Good Times?" -DEATH

07-02-2008, 06:20 PM	#14
TXFO Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: My sweet insanity Posts: 12,871	Re: 400hp 87' mustang LX that gets 80mpg E85 runs at 9:1 AFR. It would get even better gas mileage if it ran on regular gas. of course this is all BS anyway. I miss the good old days when people made up tall tales about what they run in the quarter mile or what amazing car they beat with their bucket. The MPG lies just arent as much fun. __________________ German and Italian car tech. Chinese Democracy is badass. Get on the stick Axl, release it already!!!!

07-02-2008, 06:26 PM	#15
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07-02-2008, 08:25 PM	#16
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07-02-2008, 09:40 PM	#17
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07-03-2008, 06:42 PM	#21
UselessKnowledge TEAM Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Toledo, Ohio Posts: 719	Re: 400hp 87' mustang LX that gets 80mpg I met the guy in Milan at the NMRA race on Father's Day. We talked for a few minutes, but I didn't put him and the car together until this article started hitting the news. I did see that car, but not what was under the hood. In the little free time I had while not "working", there was a bunch of people to meet with, and a buttload of cool Mustangs to check out. Ford Racing and Saleen's booths were sweet. __________________ *Pay no mind to what the other voices say ...*

07-03-2008, 07:00 PM	#23
wilko Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: WNY Posts: 1,341	Re: 400hp 87' mustang LX that gets 80mpg ^ Sure. I think they would have to blow the car they build up after proving/busting the myth. __________________ Mr. personality drives a 2008 Focus.

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