Eagle Talon (2) - The Ford Focus Forum

**BLUE_02_ZX3** · 05-09-2009, 08:13 PM

So I was just wondering. all by myself

Could an eagle talon get up to 140mph in oh...say.. 600ft or so?

if not could any four banger?

what are your thoughts on my totally genuine idea.

**Reedicus26** · 05-09-2009, 08:23 PM

A quarter mile is 1320ft, take a guess...

**2005sangriaZX3** · 05-09-2009, 08:27 PM

seems to be a common question today
http://forums.focaljet.com/team-pit-...gle-talon.html

**AAA'S ZX4** · 05-09-2009, 08:29 PM

Yes but only on a 600ft treadmill

**hEaT** · 05-09-2009, 10:10 PM

I imagine SOME four banger could, but it would be making some serious power with a lot of meat on the ground.

Maybe one of the Buschur Evos?

**sicko** · 05-09-2009, 10:21 PM

maybe this 4 cyl

http://www.turbomagazine.com/tech/02...gra/index.html

**biscuitninja** · 05-09-2009, 10:47 PM

No! In a 1/4 mile it maybe....

**jasinger** · 05-09-2009, 11:02 PM

yea that's almost funny car territory so uhhh noooooo on that.

**170499** · 05-09-2009, 11:04 PM

Thanks. I should have thought my post through before wording it like I did. This is all the info I wanted. Not any street racing thing....

**BLUE_02_ZX3** · 05-10-2009, 06:37 AM

Thats what I figured.

**azbobbybooshay_10** · 05-10-2009, 06:57 AM

Considering an NHRA Pro Stock car trips the 660' beams at about 165mph, I'm going to say unless its a full-prepped drag Talon (is it one of John Shepherd's cars?) its not gonna happen. Hell, even trapping the 1/4 mile (twice the distance you're looking at) at 140mph means its a serious machine.

**boostedzx3** · 05-10-2009, 07:06 AM

^speaking of has John Shepard broken any more of his own record times yet? I think last I saw was a 7.9?

hmmm this was 2006, 3 years ago now at a 7.7, and wow gotta beleive that was a quick fox.
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/S...body_83581.htm

^according to his website the last update was in 07 and that car is now torn apart and apparently still not back together.

**Hocky** · 05-10-2009, 09:11 AM

The answer to this question is yes, it is most certainly possible and has been done. It will, however, be a race car. FWIW, my 600whp 2800lb car went ~106mph in that distance.

**CrUziN4L** · 05-10-2009, 01:10 PM

so the first question was if a Talon could hit 140mph in a city block (locked) and now change it to 600ft?

wtf with this idea?

**CrUziN4L** · 05-10-2009, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 170499

Thanks. I should have thought my post through before wording it like I did. This is all the info I wanted. Not any street racing thing....

yeh but u were talking about street racing and still are just worded differently

dude take it to the track and you can do bet all u want between friends in a safe environment.

**BLUE_02_ZX3** · 05-10-2009, 02:13 PM

I saw it as something different, maybe Im wrong, but I hear people around here talk about a city block as a distance measuring thing, all the time. So I assumed that he didnt mean racing on an actual city block, but in a space the size of a city block, Im sure some idiot told him that his talon will get up to 140mph in a city block, the guy who owns the talon is probably a street racing idiot, but the guy who posted the original post was probably asking whether or not that was possible.

I could be wrong, but thats what I got out of it. and that kinda interested me, so I started this post to see what people thought.

Personally, I think any car could get up to 140mph in a city block, with help from a steam catapult.

Imagine how far black stig would have gone if they had hooked the jag up to one of those.

**170499** · 05-10-2009, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BLUE_02_ZX3

I saw it as something different, maybe Im wrong, but I hear people around here talk about a city block as a distance measuring thing, all the time. So I assumed that he didnt mean racing on an actual city block, but in a space the size of a city block, Im sure some idiot told him that his talon will get up to 140mph in a city block, the guy who owns the talon is probably a street racing idiot, but the guy who posted the original post was probably asking whether or not that was possible.

thats actually exactly what i originally intended. I heard it from a friend who know the guy. I've never even seen the car before. I never met the guy. Just heard it and it sounded impossible for a street legal car, so I asked. Sorry for starting something bad if I did.

**CrUziN4L** · 05-10-2009, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BLUE_02_ZX3

Personally, I think any car could get up to 140mph in a city block, with help from a steam catapult.
.

FTW

all in all, if it was just a "distance" thing then thats fine but he didnt rebuttle that or anything until u brought it up. Whatever it may be, street racing is for losers, track is for winners.

personally i have seen Talons tweaked to the point of blowing up, mind blowing fast...anything is possible if you dont kno what mods have been done. I know that old platform has some real get up to them, remember a vid of a police chase where he was on a small bend in the road climbing up to 140+ and the cop just couldnt keep up.

-chris

**170499** · 05-10-2009, 03:18 PM

well thats what i said in an earlier post, i should have been more clear that it was indeed just a measuring device. I love the track personally...even though i have only been once. I am almost positive there are very few to no mods on the car. But I am not sure...

**Hocky** · 05-10-2009, 03:22 PM

Stockish even to heavily modded street car, impossible. Race trim car, absolutely possible.

**CrUziN4L** · 05-10-2009, 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hocky

Stockish even to heavily modded street car, impossible. Race trim car, absolutely possible.

yep

**170499** · 05-11-2009, 04:35 PM

So the general answer is that a street legal car could not do it, save maybe 1 or 2?

**Hocky** · 05-11-2009, 04:44 PM

Street car has arguable definitions, but you'd need pretty much a full blown race car to do it. That is only slightly slower than the ballpark of the fastest dsm based 4g63 cars in the world.

**BLUE_02_ZX3** · 05-11-2009, 05:28 PM

hmmm. wheres the mythbusters and some spare JATO's when you need them.

**Chalz** · 05-11-2009, 05:54 PM

Eagle Talon? 140mph? 600 feet? I don't think cranks can walk that fast.

05-09-2009, 08:13 PM	#1 (permalink)
BLUE_02_ZX3 Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Camby, Indiana Posts: 1,917	Eagle Talon (2) So I was just wondering. all by myself Could an eagle talon get up to 140mph in oh...say.. 600ft or so? if not could any four banger? what are your thoughts on my totally genuine idea. __________________ [STOP LOSING YOUR JOBS PEOPLE, CANT YOU SEE IM TRYING TO GET HIRED HERE]

05-09-2009, 08:23 PM	#2 (permalink)
Reedicus26 Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 1,158	Re: Eagle Talon (2) A quarter mile is 1320ft, take a guess...

05-09-2009, 08:27 PM	#3 (permalink)
2005sangriaZX3 TEAM Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Fox Valley Area, WI Posts: 169	Re: Eagle Talon (2) seems to be a common question today http://forums.focaljet.com/team-pit-...gle-talon.html

05-09-2009, 08:29 PM	#4 (permalink)
AAA'S ZX4 TEAM Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Portland OR. Posts: 292	Re: Eagle Talon (2) Yes but only on a 600ft treadmill

05-09-2009, 10:10 PM	#5 (permalink)
hEaT I <3 UC^3 Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: CT Posts: 7,764	Re: Eagle Talon (2) I imagine SOME four banger could, but it would be making some serious power with a lot of meat on the ground. Maybe one of the Buschur Evos? __________________ 2001 Twilight Blue ZX3 - Volant Intake, Ported TB, SVT Header, RT High Flow Cat, SVTF Borla Exhaust, Koni's 1985 Nimbus Grey Merkur XR4Ti - Work In Progress Tuned By: Bristol Dyno

05-09-2009, 10:21 PM	#6 (permalink)
sicko Not so Photo Master Join Date: May 2001 Location: high altitude SICKness! Posts: 13,629	Re: Eagle Talon (2) maybe this 4 cyl http://www.turbomagazine.com/tech/02...gra/index.html

05-09-2009, 10:47 PM	#7 (permalink)
biscuitninja [FJ] Specialist Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 8,035	Re: Eagle Talon (2) No! In a 1/4 mile it maybe.... __________________ I feel blank.

05-09-2009, 11:02 PM	#8 (permalink)
jasinger Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ft.worth texas / tampa fl Posts: 4,644	Re: Eagle Talon (2) yea that's almost funny car territory so uhhh noooooo on that. __________________ 2004 Silverstone Gray 1.8t GTI = Current! 2006 Super White tC = Gone! 2002 Malibu Blue ZX3 = Gone!

05-09-2009, 11:04 PM	#9 (permalink)
170499 Torquey 2.3 Texan Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Amarillo, Texas Posts: 686	Re: Eagle Talon (2) Thanks. I should have thought my post through before wording it like I did. This is all the info I wanted. Not any street racing thing.... __________________ 2005 2.3 Liter Sonic Blue SVT Mods: 2.3 Duratec Swap, Focus Sport CAI, MBRP Exhaust, Massive Strut Bar, Roush Struts, Progress Lowering Springs, SVT 5-Spoke Wheels w/ Kumho Ecsta ASXs, SVT Interior & Exterior Goodies, Roush Pedals, Flat Black Grills, 5%/15% Tint, Kenwood System

05-10-2009, 06:37 AM	#10 (permalink)
BLUE_02_ZX3 Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Camby, Indiana Posts: 1,917	Re: Eagle Talon (2) Thats what I figured. __________________ [STOP LOSING YOUR JOBS PEOPLE, CANT YOU SEE IM TRYING TO GET HIRED HERE]

05-10-2009, 07:06 AM	#12 (permalink)
boostedzx3 [FJ] Specialist Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Mechanicsburg, PA Posts: 6,151	Re: Eagle Talon (2) ^speaking of has John Shepard broken any more of his own record times yet? I think last I saw was a 7.9? hmmm this was 2006, 3 years ago now at a 7.7, and wow gotta beleive that was a quick fox. http://videos.streetfire.net/video/S...body_83581.htm ^according to his website the last update was in 07 and that car is now torn apart and apparently still not back together. __________________ "call me crazy thats fine, it seperates me from the rest of the stupid people in the world" 2000 turbo zx3 1989 lowered s10 1969 mustang grande Last edited by boostedzx3; 05-10-2009 at 07:14 AM.

05-10-2009, 09:11 AM	#13 (permalink)
Hocky Dyno Queen Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 7,428	Re: Eagle Talon (2) The answer to this question is yes, it is most certainly possible and has been done. It will, however, be a race car. FWIW, my 600whp 2800lb car went ~106mph in that distance. __________________ I have a leaf sprung sports car and a coil sprung SUV. Bring it.

05-10-2009, 02:13 PM	#16 (permalink)
BLUE_02_ZX3 Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Camby, Indiana Posts: 1,917	Re: Eagle Talon (2) I saw it as something different, maybe Im wrong, but I hear people around here talk about a city block as a distance measuring thing, all the time. So I assumed that he didnt mean racing on an actual city block, but in a space the size of a city block, Im sure some idiot told him that his talon will get up to 140mph in a city block, the guy who owns the talon is probably a street racing idiot, but the guy who posted the original post was probably asking whether or not that was possible. I could be wrong, but thats what I got out of it. and that kinda interested me, so I started this post to see what people thought. Personally, I think any car could get up to 140mph in a city block, with help from a steam catapult. Imagine how far black stig would have gone if they had hooked the jag up to one of those. __________________ [STOP LOSING YOUR JOBS PEOPLE, CANT YOU SEE IM TRYING TO GET HIRED HERE]

05-10-2009, 03:18 PM	#19 (permalink)
170499 Torquey 2.3 Texan Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Amarillo, Texas Posts: 686	Re: Eagle Talon (2) well thats what i said in an earlier post, i should have been more clear that it was indeed just a measuring device. I love the track personally...even though i have only been once. I am almost positive there are very few to no mods on the car. But I am not sure... __________________ 2005 2.3 Liter Sonic Blue SVT Mods: 2.3 Duratec Swap, Focus Sport CAI, MBRP Exhaust, Massive Strut Bar, Roush Struts, Progress Lowering Springs, SVT 5-Spoke Wheels w/ Kumho Ecsta ASXs, SVT Interior & Exterior Goodies, Roush Pedals, Flat Black Grills, 5%/15% Tint, Kenwood System

05-10-2009, 03:22 PM	#20 (permalink)
Hocky Dyno Queen Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 7,428	Re: Eagle Talon (2) Stockish even to heavily modded street car, impossible. Race trim car, absolutely possible. __________________ I have a leaf sprung sports car and a coil sprung SUV. Bring it.

05-11-2009, 04:35 PM	#22 (permalink)
170499 Torquey 2.3 Texan Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Amarillo, Texas Posts: 686	Re: Eagle Talon (2) So the general answer is that a street legal car could not do it, save maybe 1 or 2? __________________ 2005 2.3 Liter Sonic Blue SVT Mods: 2.3 Duratec Swap, Focus Sport CAI, MBRP Exhaust, Massive Strut Bar, Roush Struts, Progress Lowering Springs, SVT 5-Spoke Wheels w/ Kumho Ecsta ASXs, SVT Interior & Exterior Goodies, Roush Pedals, Flat Black Grills, 5%/15% Tint, Kenwood System

05-11-2009, 04:44 PM	#23 (permalink)
Hocky Dyno Queen Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 7,428	Re: Eagle Talon (2) Street car has arguable definitions, but you'd need pretty much a full blown race car to do it. That is only slightly slower than the ballpark of the fastest dsm based 4g63 cars in the world. __________________ I have a leaf sprung sports car and a coil sprung SUV. Bring it.

05-11-2009, 05:28 PM	#24 (permalink)
BLUE_02_ZX3 Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Camby, Indiana Posts: 1,917	Re: Eagle Talon (2) hmmm. wheres the mythbusters and some spare JATO's when you need them. __________________ [STOP LOSING YOUR JOBS PEOPLE, CANT YOU SEE IM TRYING TO GET HIRED HERE]

05-11-2009, 05:54 PM	#25 (permalink)
Chalz Longing for Ducman69 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: SoCal Posts: 3,456	Re: Eagle Talon (2) Eagle Talon? 140mph? 600 feet? I don't think cranks can walk that fast.

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