Cadillac CTS-V Calling Out All Sedans - Page 2 - The Ford Focus Forum

**ZXmurph** · 10-30-2009, 10:08 AM

who's the Michael Cooper guy in the M3? very impressive to get even that close........ and how awesome was it to have Brian Redman in the line up!

Heinricy must be so hardwired to the V by now, there is nothing that could touch him.

Ok.....I say Walter Rohrl in a Panamera next....

(edit: holy mother of power underrating.....the Panamera Turbo's numbers in C&D!)

**j20000** · 10-30-2009, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Hocky

500 horsepower is slow, too. lol

I know it's not.

I've been working on a deal for my dirt track car to move up a class, and I've been working on getting this...

almost 800hp and 700tq..all in a 2250lb car.

**Hocky** · 10-30-2009, 02:33 PM

How many inches is the motor?

**j20000** · 10-30-2009, 03:11 PM

That particular motor is 415cid, but it's a small block still...it's just bored out...all aluminum.

Guys are getting that horsepower out of 380cid motors, and they range up to about 430cid. It all kind of depends on what size track you race at, as to what displacement motor people run, since you can get a little more torque out of the bigger displacement motors. They are all all aluminum small blocks though.

**hoodpin1** · 10-31-2009, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by j20000

I know it's not.

I've been working on a deal for my dirt track car to move up a class, and I've been working on getting this...

almost 800hp and 700tq..all in a 2250lb car.

Pro Power is the Shizzz!!!

**ZX3autoxtasy** · 10-31-2009, 08:42 PM

Jack Baruth isn't on here is he?....

He sounds like a puppet when he's talking.

How are you amazed at how consistent a supercharged engine is? I would hope (like any factory designed supercharged engine)... that its consistent. Or like any supercharged engine at all.

**MrBirdman330** · 11-01-2009, 11:07 PM

That's the beauty of a Supercharger, power from the very second you smash the throttle. Turbos you gotta build up the boost with RPM's and deal with lag. Which is why I'm more of a fan on Supercharged V8's than Turbo. Doesn't surprise me this Caddy has **** and could whoop these other cars without problem. I'd love to see this beast go at it against a Mercedes E Class though.

**OmniFocus** · 11-02-2009, 12:10 AM

They're not THAT beautiful... What people seem to forget is that the blower speed is RPM dependent, so your boost curve looks like a straight line rising from idle. You don't get the full smack down low. A well sized turbo will see full boost long before a big blower on a little engine.

...just drive a PWSC Focus as an example... Sure, it has more low-end torque, but it becomes one peaky SOB.

**j20000** · 11-02-2009, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBirdman330

That's the beauty of a Supercharger, power from the very second you smash the throttle. Turbos you gotta build up the boost with RPM's and deal with lag.

That's probably one of the dumbest, most uneducated things I have EVER read.

**MrBirdman330** · 11-02-2009, 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by j20000

That's probably one of the dumbest, most uneducated things I have EVER read.

Wait till you drive a car which has too big of a turbo for too small of an engine. When you come off the line you pray your rpm gauge doesn't dip ever below 3k then you lose your boost as what happened to me and you lose the race. Because the owner of the car had too much of an ego to admit the turbo was too much for what he did to it. Or as he said he was just lazy.

**j20000** · 11-02-2009, 09:49 PM

You made a blanket statement...not a specific one...which you are mentioning now.

A proper sized turbo is WAY more efficient than a supercharger.

**2focusd** · 11-02-2009, 09:49 PM

I wish I could say that that's the first uninformed and boneheaded thing that you've said, Bird, therefore I could write it off, but sadly, it's definitely not

-Brian

**Focusfre4k** · 11-03-2009, 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBirdman330

Wait till you drive a car which has too big of a turbo for too small of an engine. When you come off the line you pray your rpm gauge doesn't dip ever below 3k then you lose your boost as what happened to me and you lose the race. Because the owner of the car had too much of an ego to admit the turbo was too much for what he did to it. Or as he said he was just lazy.

coming from a guy who pushes around Uhaul trucks all day... Thanks.

**MrBirdman330** · 11-04-2009, 08:14 AM

It pays my bills, whats your complaint about it?

**2focusd** · 11-04-2009, 07:56 PM

It probably has something to do with the fact that it doesn't correlate to you being the expert of all things automotive like you want us to think

-Brian

10-30-2009, 10:08 AM	#26 (permalink)
ZXmurph Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: where to surf in Rochester NY?? Posts: 3,948	Re: Cadillac CTS-V Calling Out All Sedans who's the Michael Cooper guy in the M3? very impressive to get even that close........ and how awesome was it to have Brian Redman in the line up! Heinricy must be so hardwired to the V by now, there is nothing that could touch him. Ok.....I say Walter Rohrl in a Panamera next.... (edit: holy mother of power underrating.....the Panamera Turbo's numbers in C&D!) __________________ From Drewski to ? Focussport #3.--2001 Black ZX3,crank windows, no sunroof,OEM 4w/discs,FocusSportCatalogue,Flywheel,4.06,Quaife,H&R Coil-overs w/24mm rear bar. 160whp, 148wtq....and a bone friggin' stock throttle body. 2005 Atlantic Blue Pearl Subaru Legacy GT Cobb Stage 1 Last edited by ZXmurph; 10-30-2009 at 01:12 PM.

10-30-2009, 02:33 PM	#28 (permalink)
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10-31-2009, 08:42 PM	#31 (permalink)
ZX3autoxtasy [FJ] Specialist Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: atlanta Posts: 5,244	Re: Cadillac CTS-V Calling Out All Sedans Jack Baruth isn't on here is he?.... He sounds like a puppet when he's talking. How are you amazed at how consistent a supercharged engine is? I would hope (like any factory designed supercharged engine)... that its consistent. Or like any supercharged engine at all. __________________ 2008 Specialized Tarmac:: 0.0mpg with more carbon than your Focus. Pure. Power. 2007 Ridley Crossbow: Beware. Terrorizing you town until I sell it for a TT bike. 2004 Pitch Black 5spd 2.0L(Z) ZX3: Eibach Pro-Kit Springs, Eibach Pro-Kit Dampers, Brembo Rotors, Hawk HPS Pads, H&R 24mm Rear Swaybar, P-51 Shims, Focus-Sport Cool-Flo, Focus-Sport front & rear stress bar, MBRP Cat-Back, [Track] 15'' Steelies with 205/50/15 Falken Azeni RT-615's,[Street]UK ST200 Mondeo Wheels w/ Toyo Proxes 4 215/45/17's, Quantum Audio 12''/Quantum 800w Amp, Custom Ported Box, SVT Lip, and tons of other stuff...

11-01-2009, 11:07 PM	#32 (permalink)
MrBirdman330 Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: At a U-Haul Center near you. Posts: 1,473	Re: Cadillac CTS-V Calling Out All Sedans That's the beauty of a Supercharger, power from the very second you smash the throttle. Turbos you gotta build up the boost with RPM's and deal with lag. Which is why I'm more of a fan on Supercharged V8's than Turbo. Doesn't surprise me this Caddy has **** and could whoop these other cars without problem. I'd love to see this beast go at it against a Mercedes E Class though. __________________ Everybody says you can't make money off small cars. Well, you'd better damn well figure out how to make money, because that's where the world is going. - Alan Mulally

11-02-2009, 12:10 AM	#33 (permalink)
OmniFocus Moderator Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Mowin' down the cones. (CA) Posts: 29,403	Re: Cadillac CTS-V Calling Out All Sedans They're not THAT beautiful... What people seem to forget is that the blower speed is RPM dependent, so your boost curve looks like a straight line rising from idle. You don't get the full smack down low. A well sized turbo will see full boost long before a big blower on a little engine. ...just drive a PWSC Focus as an example... Sure, it has more low-end torque, but it becomes one peaky SOB. __________________ Vacuum Vulture Racing: The masters of ape latexing.

11-02-2009, 09:49 PM	#37 (permalink)
2focusd [FJ] Addict Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Uniontown, PA Posts: 15,364	Re: Cadillac CTS-V Calling Out All Sedans I wish I could say that that's the first uninformed and boneheaded thing that you've said, Bird, therefore I could write it off, but sadly, it's definitely not -Brian __________________ Godspeed, Colin McRae, may you live on forever as the reason countless people fell in love with the Ford Focus (myself included). 1968-2007 '08 Carbon Grey Metallic Hyundai Tuscani GT V6 Early '00 ZX3 - E-spec in progress (Rattletrap) - Gone but not forgotten!

11-04-2009, 08:14 AM	#39 (permalink)
MrBirdman330 Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: At a U-Haul Center near you. Posts: 1,473	Re: Cadillac CTS-V Calling Out All Sedans It pays my bills, whats your complaint about it? __________________ Everybody says you can't make money off small cars. Well, you'd better damn well figure out how to make money, because that's where the world is going. - Alan Mulally

11-04-2009, 07:56 PM	#40 (permalink)
2focusd [FJ] Addict Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Uniontown, PA Posts: 15,364	Re: Cadillac CTS-V Calling Out All Sedans It probably has something to do with the fact that it doesn't correlate to you being the expert of all things automotive like you want us to think -Brian __________________ Godspeed, Colin McRae, may you live on forever as the reason countless people fell in love with the Ford Focus (myself included). 1968-2007 '08 Carbon Grey Metallic Hyundai Tuscani GT V6 Early '00 ZX3 - E-spec in progress (Rattletrap) - Gone but not forgotten!

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