2010 Rally Stang... kinda - The Ford Focus Forum

**SVT_Chris** · 11-02-2009, 08:37 PM

I dont see this coming close to being competitive to real rally cars but damn is it fun to watch

**Dimitri** · 11-02-2009, 08:43 PM

Pretty cool, I'd like to see some footage of this thing in the snow/wet.

**deltafocus** · 11-02-2009, 08:51 PM

good stuff let's see a challenger try that

**MichaelXi** · 11-02-2009, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SVT_Chris

I dont see this coming close to being competitive to real rally cars but damn is it fun to watch

That IS REAL "Rally".
What you've said above is like saying, "I don't see college football coming close to real football, but it sure is fun to watch."
Just because it isn't WRC (Or NFL) doesn't make it any less "real".
There are many classes in rally racing, and 90+% of them can't afford to jet around the globe to play.

Just a curious afterthought...
Have you ever seen a Porsche 911 Rally car? A Corvette? A Camaro? A VW Rabbit?
I've seen all of those and more across the years. Pretty cool stuff.

**MichaelXi** · 11-02-2009, 09:31 PM

Watching some of the scenes makes me wonder where the cop car is.
"Dukes of Hazzard" and "Smokey and the Bandit" style...

**SVT_Chris** · 11-02-2009, 09:32 PM

I'm just saying you dont see the time compared to other cars, I'm not saying it can't rally I just dont know if it can compete.

**jinstall** · 11-02-2009, 10:32 PM

There is some Focus love in there as well.

**Maxximtl** · 11-02-2009, 10:41 PM

Fat white guy in a Mustang. At least they kept one tradition in tact.

**OmniFocus** · 11-02-2009, 11:18 PM

Of course it can compete!

Solid axle RWD Fords have been hauling ass in Rally Stages since at least the 60's...

**svt3d** · 11-02-2009, 11:27 PM

Full of WIN!

**wilko** · 11-03-2009, 12:49 AM

Wow. That was intresting.

**ZX3autoxtasy** · 11-03-2009, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by SVT_Chris

I'm just saying you dont see the time compared to other cars, I'm not saying it can't rally I just dont know if it can compete.

I agree with you.

It can "compete", but I don't think it'd be ideal.

I'd rather have something lighter that didn't appear so twitchy (in a bad way).

I'd like to see a comparison with some of our FJ rally'ers times. The Mustang wins the horsepower war, but I don't think they'd be very far off.

**boostedzx3** · 11-03-2009, 08:54 AM

WIN WIN WIN all the bowtie fans can take that and stick it up their cooter

**SilverSVT** · 11-03-2009, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Maxximtl

Fat white guy in a Mustang. At least they kept one tradition in tact.

I've seen plenty of fatasses in Foci too..

**MichaelXi** · 11-03-2009, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ZX3autoxtasy

I agree with you.

It can "compete", but I don't think it'd be ideal.

I'd rather have something lighter that didn't appear so twitchy (in a bad way).

I'd like to see a comparison with some of our FJ rally'ers times. The Mustang wins the horsepower war, but I don't think they'd be very far off.

I'm pretty sure they're in different classes.

**MichaelXi** · 11-03-2009, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by OmniFocus

Of course it can compete!

Solid axle RWD Fords have been hauling ass in Rally Stages since at least the 60's...

Man, I just watched it again, and I got a little bit of goosebumps.
Back when I was 17-19, I used to tear it up from time to time on gravel backroads in our '69 Mustang Coupe.
Growing up, I'd seen Dad use the car for hauling horses (In a Horse-trailer, of course) or LARGE loads of hay or firewood (In a decent-sized utility trailer), often across muddy or snowy fields. Despite not having a bed, it did many things that a Farm Truck could do if it had its trailer attached.
When I look at the modern cars, everything just seems so "fragile"... like it needs to stay ON the pavement.... period.
I don't know the extent of the mods on these cars, or if the packages can be ordered through Ford Racing, but it is SO REFRESHING to see a NEW Mustang get out there and sling some dirt and gravel without making me cringe over every bump. THAT is WAY Cool.

It shows some "Muscle" that isn't afraid to get its hands dirty.

**BigSandwich** · 11-03-2009, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MichaelXi

I'm pretty sure they're in different classes.

Actually they are, the three major rally sanctioning organizations, RA, NASA, USRC (Partial Overlay of NASA). Have combined 2WD cars into one class. So for season points a mustang and a focus are in the same class no matter what the modifications as long as they remain 2WD.

This event was actually held the day after a rally and was limited to only the two participants in the video. However it was held on a road that was used during the rally. Utecht had an advantage having run the car for the entire rally that preceded the challenge.

This car will not challenge the AWD cars but AWD is such a huge advantage on the dirt that comparing any 2WD car to an AWD one is silly. Now the mustang can be competitive in 2WD competition, You just have to have a large tire budget. Lots of wheel spin = lots of melted rally tires.

**frdfocszx3** · 11-03-2009, 06:06 PM

Kind of silly seeing a mustang rally, but still fun none the less. Good thing it was mustang vs mustang, and not mustang vs any of them subarus.

**MichaelXi** · 11-03-2009, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by frdfocszx3

Kind of silly seeing a mustang rally, but still fun none the less. Good thing it was mustang vs mustang, and not mustang vs any of them subarus.

UGH!
Read the Thread!

Silly = NOT!
Subaru = Different Class

**MichaelXi** · 11-03-2009, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BigSandwich

Actually they are, the three major rally sanctioning organizations, RA, NASA, USRC (Partial Overlay of NASA). Have combined 2WD cars into one class. So for season points a mustang and a focus are in the same class no matter what the modifications as long as they remain 2WD.

Is that due to a Competitive Decision, or a "Turnout for an Event" Decision.
I'm guessing the latter...

**frdfocszx3** · 11-04-2009, 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by MichaelXi

UGH!
Read the Thread!

Silly = NOT!
Subaru = Different Class

Relax a little. You're giving yourself a blackeye.

I was just thinking it was silly rallying a mustang, it's all subjective. As far as subarus, of course a different class silly.

**MichaelXi** · 11-04-2009, 06:51 AM

My point is, as has been verified by others, Rally-Racing a Mustang is Tried-And-True...
NOT Silly.
They've Rally-Raced for around 45 years now.

**BigSandwich** · 11-04-2009, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by MichaelXi

Is that due to a Competitive Decision, or a "Turnout for an Event" Decision.
I'm guessing the latter...

A little of both actually. Check out Max-Attack, www.max-attack.com, which is a 2WD overlay series that actually pays money. This has been very popular with 2WD rally community getting lots of people to actually attend 2wd events, So the organizers are trying to capture some of that.

But a good portion of it is that a lot of rallies only have 1-3 cars in each of the 2WD classes. So why not make them one class and get better competition.

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MichaelXi Michael's Eye... Get It? Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Venus Via Knoxville, TN Posts: 25,328	Re: 2010 Rally Stang... kinda Watching some of the scenes makes me wonder where the cop car is. "Dukes of Hazzard" and "Smokey and the Bandit" style...

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SVT_Chris TEAM Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Fuquay Varina, NC Posts: 166	Re: 2010 Rally Stang... kinda I'm just saying you dont see the time compared to other cars, I'm not saying it can't rally I just dont know if it can compete.

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Maxximtl [FJ] Specialist Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Denver, CO. Posts: 5,986	Re: 2010 Rally Stang... kinda Fat white guy in a Mustang. At least they kept one tradition in tact.

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OmniFocus Moderator Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Mowin' down the cones. (CA) Posts: 29,403	Re: 2010 Rally Stang... kinda Of course it can compete! Solid axle RWD Fords have been hauling ass in Rally Stages since at least the 60's... __________________ Vacuum Vulture Racing: The masters of ape latexing.

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frdfocszx3 Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Sandnes, Norway Posts: 4,327	Re: 2010 Rally Stang... kinda Kind of silly seeing a mustang rally, but still fun none the less. Good thing it was mustang vs mustang, and not mustang vs any of them subarus. __________________ 2009 Impreza WRX 1991 Toyota Chaser 2000 Focus ZX3 (sold)RIP

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MichaelXi Michael's Eye... Get It? Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Venus Via Knoxville, TN Posts: 25,328	Re: 2010 Rally Stang... kinda My point is, as has been verified by others, Rally-Racing a Mustang is Tried-And-True... NOT Silly. They've Rally-Raced for around 45 years now.

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