Team Rigz etiquette - Focaljet

**Ataru** · 02-26-2004, 12:01 PM

Can you tell me what these cars have in common:

Sit'n'on_Chrome

ZX3 Canuck

Tribal Focus

'68 Touring Car

Tobyboom

MichaelXi

Railman

Back'N'Focus

blackcat521

They are all belong to Focus owners and Focaljet members. I think that is something that a lof of us have forgotten. We are all Focus owners that have come to this board to share our enjoyment with these vehicles.

The one thing that makes all of us different is the way we express ourselves with our cars. Focaljet is NOT just for Focus owners who drag race or road race their cars. Focaljet is for ALL Focus owners no matter how they wish to express themselves through their vehicle.

Be it through drag racing (Tobyboom), dedicated track racing ('68 Touring Car), show cars (Tribal), euro Focus inspired (ZX3 Canuck), low-rider (sit’n’on chrome), autocross (MichaelXi), wagons (Railman), 05's (Back'N'Focus) or even bone stock sedans (blackcat521), we are all here for one reason: We love the cars we drive and want to share that with other enthusiasts.

We have 13,000 registered members of Focaljet. Because we have so many members and everyone has a different idea of what should be done with the Focus, you are going to have people disagree with the different approaches to Focus customization. That is fine. Autocrossers might not like the low-rider style, while drag racers might not like the show car style and so forth. If every car was liked by everyone then customizing our cars would be boring.

The one thing we must remember though is that we should all at least respect what other members have done with their vehicles……..even if you don’t agree with their approach. You might not like a vehicle, you might even completely despise it for what the member did, but that does NOT mean that his car or his approach is any less important than what you are doing to your car.

If you don’t like someone’s car, either use constructive criticism and explain why you are not a fan of it and what you would like to see different, or simply keep your opinion to yourself. There has been too much bashing going on lately simply because of the clashing of the styles. Lets try to embrace all Focus owners and Focaljet members in an attempt to expand the Focus community instead of segregating it.

The Focus and Focaljet community was tight knit when the Focus came out. Everyone was happy to see an owner do anything different to their vehicle because it was something new and different. Lately we have lost that initial feel of community. We have lost focus. Lets try to get back to why we are all here to begin with: Our enjoyment in owning and customizing our cars, the Ford Focus.

Thanks everyone,
Ataru

Twilight02ZX3 · 02-26-2004, 12:11 PM

Nicely put

**sit'n'on_chrome** · 02-26-2004, 12:15 PM

well said !!

low and slow is how i roll .. keepin my ride gleamin and blingin !!

long live chrome!!!

**askjeffro** · 02-26-2004, 12:17 PM

I agree with most of your comments and certainly support the idea. I would like everyone to play nice.

Preactice respect.

**Penguini66** · 02-26-2004, 12:18 PM

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The one thing we must remember though is that we should all at least respect what other members have done with their vehicles……..even if you don’t agree with their approach. You might not like a vehicle, you might even completely despise it for what the member did, but that does NOT mean that his car or his approach is any less important than what you are doing to your car.

I couldn't agree more. When I first came onto the jet, I would sometimes laugh or make fun of things that didn't appeal to me. Since then, I've been to a few car shows and even a few drag races. And by opening myself up, I've learned to not only respect but also appreciate the effort (blood, sweat and tears) that goes into ANY type of work on a car. Just like music, of which I've learned to appreciate almost any style, I've learned to appreciate anybody’s vision for their own car, for what it is, their car.

**Peloton25** · 02-26-2004, 12:24 PM

Excellent post sir.

BTW: I edited to fix your image tags.

>8^)
ER

**Dev** · 02-26-2004, 12:26 PM

Well said Jason!

**Hypnotic** · 02-26-2004, 01:01 PM

Well put, and I totally agree.

**Qdoba Addict** · 02-26-2004, 01:04 PM

Garbage in equals garbage out! If someone posts that their Focus is the best thing since sliced bread and the only thing they have to back that up is some grainy pictures of a Focus with plastic spinner hubcaps and an APC wang then of course some people are going to talk smack about them.
Styling is subjective and people will have different ideas of what is nice. If you don't want feedback why would you post pics in a public forum? Maybe you should just turn off the ability to post replies in Team Rigz?

**Peloton25** · 02-26-2004, 01:16 PM

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Garbage in equals garbage out! If someone posts that their Focus is the best thing since sliced bread and the only thing they have to back that up is some grainy pictures of a Focus with plastic spinner hubcaps and an APC wang then of course some people are going to talk smack about them.
Styling is subjective and people will have different ideas of what is nice. If you don't want feedback why would you post pics in a public forum? Maybe you should just turn off the ability to post replies in Team Rigz?

I completely disagree.

People need to remember the age old rule - "If you have nothing nice to say, then don't say anything at all."

If someone makes a post like the one you are describing, then maybe a better message would be sent if it received no replies then if it went downhill with rude and thoughtless comments.

I know how it is - people think they can hide behind their screennames and get away with any comment they choose. That's just not right, and that's not the kind of atmosphere we are promoting here, nor will we continue to tolerate it.

>8^)
ER

**Ataru** · 02-26-2004, 01:17 PM

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Garbage in equals garbage out! If someone posts that their Focus is the best thing since sliced bread and the only thing they have to back that up is some grainy pictures of a Focus with plastic spinner hubcaps and an APC wang then of course some people are going to talk smack about them.
Styling is subjective and people will have different ideas of what is nice. If you don't want feedback why would you post pics in a public forum? Maybe you should just turn off the ability to post replies in Team Rigz?

Would you go up to a woman and tell her to her face that she is ugly? Would you go up to the owner of one of the cars listed above and tell them to their face what some of the people on this board have been saying about other member's cars? Things like:

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Hahahahahaha what the heck is that thing...............ur car=rice buddy.....get ur sry butt off this board....my svt would leave u at the line looking stupid in the straights and in the curves. IS SOMEONE COOKING RICE??????

I would like to see you say something similar to that to someone's face and watch you get your lights knocked out. A lot of people think that because they are on the internet that they can act without any type of ethics. It is a shame really.

Just because you have the right to say what you want does not mean that you should say what you want....

Respect other people and they will respect you back. Treat them like crap and expect to get flushed down the toilet yourself.....

**01S2** · 02-26-2004, 01:20 PM

**Jared** · 02-26-2004, 01:22 PM

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and an APC wang

this post is useless without pictures

**02SVTFOCUS** · 02-26-2004, 01:27 PM

well said

**Maxis24** · 02-26-2004, 01:30 PM

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Just because you have the right to say what you want does not mean that you should say what you want....

Respect other people and they will respect you back. Treat them like crap and expect to get flushed down the toilet yourself.....

Amen Brotha

**Egz** · 02-26-2004, 01:33 PM

Thank you for saying that.

**ZX3guy182** · 02-26-2004, 01:37 PM

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Thank you for saying that.

**OmniFocus** · 02-26-2004, 01:37 PM

Thanks, this is a good reminder.

I am guilty of such things as well.

Go FocalJet!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

**Majikal** · 02-26-2004, 01:40 PM

Ive disliked a few cars and Ive expressed my opinion but never in a rude, degrating way...
I totally agree with your posts and look forward to seeing this community grow in that direction... people need to learn that they can still voice their opinion without blatantly bashing someone...

"I don't like your tail-lights" is different from "those lights are rice"

**FordFocusDanielSan** · 02-26-2004, 01:43 PM

halelluja!! can i get a amen??

**Ray** · 02-26-2004, 01:46 PM

Does this apply to midwings?

*(a few members will get that joke)

Well said Ataru, i noticed that the... asbestos suits were needed more frequently while venturing into rigz.

Now here is the question: Does this apply to all cars posted, such as the infamous "CHECK OUT THIS EBAY RIDE" which is all hideous where we bash it?

**CTZX3** · 02-26-2004, 01:48 PM

WOW

well said.

**Fonzie** · 02-26-2004, 01:49 PM

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halelluja!! can i get a amen??

AMEN brother!!! Well said. My wife thinks I am weird cuz I always get excited when I see another Focus. You never know if they are on the jet or not. I consider that Jet a big family. Sure sometimes brothers and sisters fight but they make up too. Good one!!! Keep the love and sport alive!!!

**BowDown** · 02-26-2004, 01:51 PM

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Does this apply to midwings?

*(a few members will get that joke)

YellowSteel · 02-26-2004, 02:00 PM

I agree with the spirit of the post.

I do not agree that people need to keep opinions to themselves if they are not positive ones. With the catch that if you have something negative to say, do it without attacking the person.

I respect that people put work into their cars, but not all of it's my taste, and if they throw it up on the Internet wanting feedback, I am going to give it, and it might be "Those lights are ugly". I'm going to have to assume the person knows that it's my opinion, and from the looks of Team Rigs, they already do.

Granted you don't really have to worry about me because I don't really do that. Just showing the flip side of the coin here for people that still like to express how they feel since this is a place for opinions.

02-26-2004, 12:01 PM	#1
Ataru Bridesmaid status updated: Still a bridesmaid Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Where the winds come sweeping down the plains Posts: 10,850	Team Rigz etiquette Can you tell me what these cars have in common: Sit'n'on_Chrome ZX3 Canuck Tribal Focus '68 Touring Car Tobyboom MichaelXi Railman Back'N'Focus blackcat521 They are all belong to Focus owners and Focaljet members. I think that is something that a lof of us have forgotten. We are all Focus owners that have come to this board to share our enjoyment with these vehicles. The one thing that makes all of us different is the way we express ourselves with our cars. Focaljet is NOT just for Focus owners who drag race or road race their cars. Focaljet is for ALL Focus owners no matter how they wish to express themselves through their vehicle. Be it through drag racing (Tobyboom), dedicated track racing ('68 Touring Car), show cars (Tribal), euro Focus inspired (ZX3 Canuck), low-rider (sit’n’on chrome), autocross (MichaelXi), wagons (Railman), 05's (Back'N'Focus) or even bone stock sedans (blackcat521), we are all here for one reason: We love the cars we drive and want to share that with other enthusiasts. We have 13,000 registered members of Focaljet. Because we have so many members and everyone has a different idea of what should be done with the Focus, you are going to have people disagree with the different approaches to Focus customization. That is fine. Autocrossers might not like the low-rider style, while drag racers might not like the show car style and so forth. If every car was liked by everyone then customizing our cars would be boring. The one thing we must remember though is that we should all at least respect what other members have done with their vehicles……..even if you don’t agree with their approach. You might not like a vehicle, you might even completely despise it for what the member did, but that does NOT mean that his car or his approach is any less important than what you are doing to your car. If you don’t like someone’s car, either use constructive criticism and explain why you are not a fan of it and what you would like to see different, or simply keep your opinion to yourself. There has been too much bashing going on lately simply because of the clashing of the styles. Lets try to embrace all Focus owners and Focaljet members in an attempt to expand the Focus community instead of segregating it. The Focus and Focaljet community was tight knit when the Focus came out. Everyone was happy to see an owner do anything different to their vehicle because it was something new and different. Lately we have lost that initial feel of community. We have lost focus. Lets try to get back to why we are all here to begin with: Our enjoyment in owning and customizing our cars, the Ford Focus. Thanks everyone, Ataru

02-26-2004, 12:11 PM	#2
Twilight02ZX3 Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Littleton, CO Posts: 2,355	Re: I would like every member\'s attention in here for just a minute. Nicely put

02-26-2004, 12:15 PM	#3
sit'n'on_chrome [FJ] Addict Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: (David) East side san jo northern killafornia Posts: 14,537	Re: I would like every member\'s attention in here for just a minute. well said !! low and slow is how i roll .. keepin my ride gleamin and blingin !! long live chrome!!!

02-26-2004, 12:17 PM	#4
askjeffro Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: IN Posts: 2,957	Re: I would like every member\'s attention in here for just a min I agree with most of your comments and certainly support the idea. I would like everyone to play nice. Preactice respect.

02-26-2004, 12:24 PM	#6
Peloton25 The return of the great one Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Moorpark, CA USA Posts: 21,710	Re: I would like every member\'s attention in here for just a minute. Excellent post sir. BTW: I edited to fix your image tags. >8^) ER

02-26-2004, 12:26 PM	#7
Dev Chocolate Warrior Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: (Devon)Citrus Heights, CA USA Posts: 29,336	Re: I would like every member\'s attention in here for just a minute. Well said Jason!

02-26-2004, 01:01 PM	#8
Hypnotic Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,452	Re: I would like every member\'s attention in here for just a minute. Well put, and I totally agree.

02-26-2004, 01:04 PM	#9
Qdoba Addict Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Avon, IN Posts: 1,558	Re: I would like every member\'s attention in here for just a minute. Garbage in equals garbage out! If someone posts that their Focus is the best thing since sliced bread and the only thing they have to back that up is some grainy pictures of a Focus with plastic spinner hubcaps and an APC wang then of course some people are going to talk smack about them. Styling is subjective and people will have different ideas of what is nice. If you don't want feedback why would you post pics in a public forum? Maybe you should just turn off the ability to post replies in Team Rigz?

02-26-2004, 01:20 PM	#12
01S2 Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Just sitting here not thinking I'm clever. Posts: 1,033	Re: I would like every member\'s attention in here for just a minute.

02-26-2004, 01:27 PM	#14
02SVTFOCUS TEAM Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: rachel SoCal Posts: 945	Re: I would like every member\'s attention in here for just a minute. well said

02-26-2004, 01:33 PM	#16
Egz Moderator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Tappahannock, VA Posts: 19,178	Re: I would like every member\'s attention in here for just a minute. Thank you for saying that.

02-26-2004, 01:37 PM	#18
OmniFocus Moderator Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Mowin' down the cones. (CA) Posts: 25,550	Re: I would like every member\'s attention in here for just a minute. Thanks, this is a good reminder. I am guilty of such things as well. Go FocalJet!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

02-26-2004, 01:40 PM	#19
Majikal Moderator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: West Hartford, CT Posts: 11,487	Re: I would like every member\'s attention in here for just a minute. Ive disliked a few cars and Ive expressed my opinion but never in a rude, degrating way... I totally agree with your posts and look forward to seeing this community grow in that direction... people need to learn that they can still voice their opinion without blatantly bashing someone... "I don't like your tail-lights" is different from "those lights are rice"

02-26-2004, 01:43 PM	#20
FordFocusDanielSan Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: One Rock In Da Pacific Sea Posts: 2,984	Re: I would like every member\'s attention in here for just a minute. halelluja!! can i get a amen??

02-26-2004, 01:46 PM	#21
Ray aka demonfire Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: CT Posts: 26,356	Re: I would like every member\'s attention in here for just a minute. Does this apply to midwings? *(a few members will get that joke) Well said Ataru, i noticed that the... asbestos suits were needed more frequently while venturing into rigz. Now here is the question: Does this apply to all cars posted, such as the infamous "CHECK OUT THIS EBAY RIDE" which is all hideous where we bash it?

02-26-2004, 01:48 PM	#22
CTZX3 [FJ] Specialist Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: FJ Member #93 PerryHall, Maryland Posts: 7,033	Re: I would like every member\'s attention in here for just a minute. WOW well said.

02-26-2004, 02:00 PM	#25
YellowSteel Gaming God Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: penny arcade forums Posts: 5,810	Re: I would like every member\'s attention in here for just a minute. I agree with the spirit of the post. I do not agree that people need to keep opinions to themselves if they are not positive ones. With the catch that if you have something negative to say, do it without attacking the person. I respect that people put work into their cars, but not all of it's my taste, and if they throw it up on the Internet wanting feedback, I am going to give it, and it might be "Those lights are ugly". I'm going to have to assume the person knows that it's my opinion, and from the looks of Team Rigs, they already do. Granted you don't really have to worry about me because I don't really do that. Just showing the flip side of the coin here for people that still like to express how they feel since this is a place for opinions.