XR4Ti Build Progress - Updated 06-23-08 - Page 33 - Focaljet

**Ray** · 10-07-2008, 06:06 PM

get the part number on the unit itself if you could, joe.

looking for an eaton unit 26 spline 3.23 gearset

thanks

**hEaT** · 10-07-2008, 07:14 PM

Will do.

I know it doesn't have 3.23 gears. I believe it has 3.72's currently, but XR gears bolt to it as well.

**Ray** · 10-09-2008, 06:13 AM

Well, regardless, i did kind of just buy a new eaton diff yesterday. still wouldn't mind looking at the irocs for a "spare" but i only need the diff, nothing else. (as you know)

we can continue this discussion via email or on the phone.

I'll have a bunch of progress pics when i get to undertaking this...

stuffing a GM differential into a merkur case.

heh. pretty soon nothing on my car (drivetrain) will be original.
eek.

**hEaT** · 10-09-2008, 06:03 PM

I see Grayson is thinking of offering new Eaton diff's with the spacers for a decent price. Probably cheaper and stronger than a euro 7.0", maybe the 7.5" as well.

**RhodySVT** · 10-09-2008, 07:19 PM

Thanks for showing me around today and the bits ya gave me for the Foci, best of luck with the house and getting that diff fixed up.

**hEaT** · 10-09-2008, 07:43 PM

Welcome to the area. Next time you're coming up, shoot me a PM. I'm in the same area as well as SVTADAM and smoke3006.

**Ray** · 10-10-2008, 06:13 AM

joe yeah i was talking to grayson about that a few days ago. i am pretty sure the eaton will be stronger than the euro 7" (factory is open 7.5" btw) but in terms of strength i'm not sure. I think we know the factory diff isn't that strong, and i proved the euro one isn't that strong...

heh
also it wont be cheaper than a euro 7.0". diff alone is over $400 (if he gets the group buy discount) plus you need to factor in the spacers and cases etc.

just saying.

**hEaT** · 10-10-2008, 08:23 AM

Eh, I would use my 7.5" that I have know and put the LSD into that.

How much did you get your 7.0" Euro one for? I see those and the 7.5"s on eBay UK all the time, but never here.

**Ray** · 10-10-2008, 02:55 PM

What is wrong with this picture?

oh. this.

spider gear bit it.

**Ray** · 10-10-2008, 03:04 PM

and... already planning the "upgrade" - eaton 7.5" GM clutch type posi LSD

**biscuitninja** · 10-11-2008, 02:24 AM

Pssh... upgrade it to a 9" pumkin!
good luck
-bix

**Ray** · 10-15-2008, 12:26 PM

some photodocumentation of me reaching one of my goals this season:

to hit a cone with the rear bumper while basically taking a corner sideways.

**RhodySVT** · 10-15-2008, 01:16 PM

Awesome pics, I used to loooooove doing fun stuff like that in my turbo Supra MKIII. RWD FTMFW!

**hotdimmes** · 10-15-2008, 01:52 PM

Ray, you aren't running a hydraulic clutch are you? Given my eagerness to jump on a deal and lack of thorough reading...I may need to run one which I'm not actually that upset about.

**hEaT** · 10-15-2008, 02:35 PM

There are a few writeups on MCAF on how to do it. You can always sell the bell and get a non-87/88 Thunderbird bell.

**hotdimmes** · 10-15-2008, 02:40 PM

haha, I'm reading all of them. All I've done so far is bid on a pretty cheap bellhousing that it seems no one else is interested in. It would probably still be cheaper to get the non87-88 TC one rather than try and do hydraulic. But mmm...hydraulic....

crap I might be retarded and it's not even hydraulic...its a 87-93 mustang 2.3 bell. Ok, no more threadjacking lol

**hEaT** · 10-15-2008, 03:00 PM

I believe so.

The ONLY T5 bell IIRC that is hydraulic is the 87 and 88 Thunderbird Turbo Couple bell.

**Ray** · 10-15-2008, 03:28 PM

no, no hydraulic clutch. and i dont think the 87-93 2.3 stangs had hydraulic clutches anyway? my bell is from a 90 stang iirc...

**hotdimmes** · 10-15-2008, 03:39 PM

excellent. I told myself I was going to wait until AFTER registering the car to start buying parts....tsk tsk me. Now to find a nice mid 90s WC T5

**Ray** · 10-20-2008, 06:48 AM

Last action shots until spring, as we finished our 2008 autocross season yesterday. Did well even with the car being "down" with a stock, open, breath on the throttle and burn tire, differential. It was a lesson in smoothness as we had NO corner exit acceleration. Was able to pull a 1-2 victory in class with myself and my codriver taking first and second, respectively. Overall, great season and while i am unhappy it's already over, it gives us time to get the new rear end figured out while deciding on a few other tweaks here and there for the off season.

anyway, pics:

out of the hole = zero accel. had to basically feather the throttle and at no point in time could we dip into it. man, that was hard.

excercising my right to take corners as wide and make everything into a sweeper to maintain momentum.

here are some shots of smoke3006 having some fun with his 86 xr:

**Ray** · 10-20-2008, 05:04 PM

some pics and vids that sam took:

Quote:

Originally Posted by smoke3006

10-07-2008, 06:06 PM	#801
Ray Driver > Car Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: CT Posts: 26,770	Re: XR4Ti Build Progress - Updated 06-23-08 get the part number on the unit itself if you could, joe. looking for an eaton unit 26 spline 3.23 gearset thanks __________________ Cable Ties. Is there anything they can't fix? Driver > Car - in memory of GaryK *Roadtrippin.org* \| CART

10-07-2008, 07:14 PM	#802
hEaT [FJ] Specialist Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: CT Posts: 5,646	Re: XR4Ti Build Progress - Updated 06-23-08 Will do. I know it doesn't have 3.23 gears. I believe it has 3.72's currently, but XR gears bolt to it as well. __________________ 2001 Twilight Blue ZX3 - Volant Intake, FC 65mm TB, SVT Header, RT High Flow Cat, SVTF Borla Exhaust, Koni's 1985 Nimbus Grey Merkur XR4Ti - Work In Progress Tuned By: Bristol Dyno

10-09-2008, 06:13 AM	#803
Ray Driver > Car Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: CT Posts: 26,770	Re: XR4Ti Build Progress - Updated 06-23-08 Well, regardless, i did kind of just buy a new eaton diff yesterday. still wouldn't mind looking at the irocs for a "spare" but i only need the diff, nothing else. (as you know) we can continue this discussion via email or on the phone. I'll have a bunch of progress pics when i get to undertaking this... stuffing a GM differential into a merkur case. heh. pretty soon nothing on my car (drivetrain) will be original. eek. __________________ Cable Ties. Is there anything they can't fix? Driver > Car - in memory of GaryK *Roadtrippin.org* \| CART

10-09-2008, 06:03 PM	#804
hEaT [FJ] Specialist Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: CT Posts: 5,646	Re: XR4Ti Build Progress - Updated 06-23-08 I see Grayson is thinking of offering new Eaton diff's with the spacers for a decent price. Probably cheaper and stronger than a euro 7.0", maybe the 7.5" as well. __________________ 2001 Twilight Blue ZX3 - Volant Intake, FC 65mm TB, SVT Header, RT High Flow Cat, SVTF Borla Exhaust, Koni's 1985 Nimbus Grey Merkur XR4Ti - Work In Progress Tuned By: Bristol Dyno

10-09-2008, 07:19 PM	#805
RhodySVT TEAM Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Groton, CT Posts: 189	Re: XR4Ti Build Progress - Updated 06-23-08 Thanks for showing me around today and the bits ya gave me for the Foci, best of luck with the house and getting that diff fixed up. __________________ 2004 CD Silver SVT ZX5 Euro #1062 of 1079 PowerWorks @ 10psi::234whp 190wtq VF lower mount::Ford Racing STS/Wires .......................much much more to come

10-09-2008, 07:43 PM	#806
hEaT [FJ] Specialist Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: CT Posts: 5,646	Re: XR4Ti Build Progress - Updated 06-23-08 Welcome to the area. Next time you're coming up, shoot me a PM. I'm in the same area as well as SVTADAM and smoke3006. __________________ 2001 Twilight Blue ZX3 - Volant Intake, FC 65mm TB, SVT Header, RT High Flow Cat, SVTF Borla Exhaust, Koni's 1985 Nimbus Grey Merkur XR4Ti - Work In Progress Tuned By: Bristol Dyno

10-10-2008, 06:13 AM	#807
Ray Driver > Car Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: CT Posts: 26,770	Re: XR4Ti Build Progress - Updated 06-23-08 joe yeah i was talking to grayson about that a few days ago. i am pretty sure the eaton will be stronger than the euro 7" (factory is open 7.5" btw) but in terms of strength i'm not sure. I think we know the factory diff isn't that strong, and i proved the euro one isn't that strong... heh also it wont be cheaper than a euro 7.0". diff alone is over $400 (if he gets the group buy discount) plus you need to factor in the spacers and cases etc. just saying. __________________ Cable Ties. Is there anything they can't fix? Driver > Car - in memory of GaryK *Roadtrippin.org* \| CART

10-10-2008, 08:23 AM	#808
hEaT [FJ] Specialist Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: CT Posts: 5,646	Re: XR4Ti Build Progress - Updated 06-23-08 Eh, I would use my 7.5" that I have know and put the LSD into that. How much did you get your 7.0" Euro one for? I see those and the 7.5"s on eBay UK all the time, but never here. __________________ 2001 Twilight Blue ZX3 - Volant Intake, FC 65mm TB, SVT Header, RT High Flow Cat, SVTF Borla Exhaust, Koni's 1985 Nimbus Grey Merkur XR4Ti - Work In Progress Tuned By: Bristol Dyno

10-10-2008, 02:55 PM	#809
Ray Driver > Car Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: CT Posts: 26,770	Re: XR4Ti Build Progress - Updated 06-23-08 What is wrong with this picture? oh. this. spider gear bit it. __________________ Cable Ties. Is there anything they can't fix? Driver > Car - in memory of GaryK *Roadtrippin.org* \| CART

10-10-2008, 03:04 PM	#810
Ray Driver > Car Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: CT Posts: 26,770	Re: XR4Ti Build Progress - Updated 06-23-08 and... already planning the "upgrade" - eaton 7.5" GM clutch type posi LSD __________________ Cable Ties. Is there anything they can't fix? Driver > Car - in memory of GaryK *Roadtrippin.org* \| CART

10-11-2008, 02:24 AM	#811
biscuitninja [FJ] Specialist Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 6,647	Re: XR4Ti Build Progress - Updated 06-23-08 Pssh... upgrade it to a 9" pumkin! good luck -bix __________________ 2008 Prediction: In the immortial words of Clubber Lang... "my prediction ... PAIN! " Waiting to pounce on a foreclosed home!

10-15-2008, 12:26 PM	#812
Ray Driver > Car Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: CT Posts: 26,770	Re: XR4Ti Build Progress - Updated 06-23-08 some photodocumentation of me reaching one of my goals this season: to hit a cone with the rear bumper while basically taking a corner sideways. __________________ Cable Ties. Is there anything they can't fix? Driver > Car - in memory of GaryK *Roadtrippin.org* \| CART

10-15-2008, 01:16 PM	#813
RhodySVT TEAM Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Groton, CT Posts: 189	Re: XR4Ti Build Progress - Updated 06-23-08 Awesome pics, I used to loooooove doing fun stuff like that in my turbo Supra MKIII. RWD FTMFW! __________________ 2004 CD Silver SVT ZX5 Euro #1062 of 1079 PowerWorks @ 10psi::234whp 190wtq VF lower mount::Ford Racing STS/Wires .......................much much more to come

10-15-2008, 01:52 PM	#814
hotdimmes Junior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Hartford, CT Posts: 91	Re: XR4Ti Build Progress - Updated 06-23-08 Ray, you aren't running a hydraulic clutch are you? Given my eagerness to jump on a deal and lack of thorough reading...I may need to run one which I'm not actually that upset about. __________________ 1998.5 Black Ford Contour SE - SVT Body - SVTF 5 spokes - K&N/MSDS/Borla I/H/E - 1988 Mono Rosso Red Merkur XR4Ti

10-15-2008, 02:35 PM	#815
hEaT [FJ] Specialist Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: CT Posts: 5,646	Re: XR4Ti Build Progress - Updated 06-23-08 There are a few writeups on MCAF on how to do it. You can always sell the bell and get a non-87/88 Thunderbird bell. __________________ 2001 Twilight Blue ZX3 - Volant Intake, FC 65mm TB, SVT Header, RT High Flow Cat, SVTF Borla Exhaust, Koni's 1985 Nimbus Grey Merkur XR4Ti - Work In Progress Tuned By: Bristol Dyno

10-15-2008, 02:40 PM	#816
hotdimmes Junior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Hartford, CT Posts: 91	Re: XR4Ti Build Progress - Updated 06-23-08 haha, I'm reading all of them. All I've done so far is bid on a pretty cheap bellhousing that it seems no one else is interested in. It would probably still be cheaper to get the non87-88 TC one rather than try and do hydraulic. But mmm...hydraulic.... crap I might be retarded and it's not even hydraulic...its a 87-93 mustang 2.3 bell. Ok, no more threadjacking lol __________________ 1998.5 Black Ford Contour SE - SVT Body - SVTF 5 spokes - K&N/MSDS/Borla I/H/E - 1988 Mono Rosso Red Merkur XR4Ti

10-15-2008, 03:00 PM	#817
hEaT [FJ] Specialist Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: CT Posts: 5,646	Re: XR4Ti Build Progress - Updated 06-23-08 I believe so. The ONLY T5 bell IIRC that is hydraulic is the 87 and 88 Thunderbird Turbo Couple bell. __________________ 2001 Twilight Blue ZX3 - Volant Intake, FC 65mm TB, SVT Header, RT High Flow Cat, SVTF Borla Exhaust, Koni's 1985 Nimbus Grey Merkur XR4Ti - Work In Progress Tuned By: Bristol Dyno

10-15-2008, 03:28 PM	#818
Ray Driver > Car Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: CT Posts: 26,770	Re: XR4Ti Build Progress - Updated 06-23-08 no, no hydraulic clutch. and i dont think the 87-93 2.3 stangs had hydraulic clutches anyway? my bell is from a 90 stang iirc... __________________ Cable Ties. Is there anything they can't fix? Driver > Car - in memory of GaryK *Roadtrippin.org* \| CART

10-15-2008, 03:39 PM	#819
hotdimmes Junior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Hartford, CT Posts: 91	Re: XR4Ti Build Progress - Updated 06-23-08 excellent. I told myself I was going to wait until AFTER registering the car to start buying parts....tsk tsk me. Now to find a nice mid 90s WC T5 __________________ 1998.5 Black Ford Contour SE - SVT Body - SVTF 5 spokes - K&N/MSDS/Borla I/H/E - 1988 Mono Rosso Red Merkur XR4Ti

10-20-2008, 06:48 AM	#820
Ray Driver > Car Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: CT Posts: 26,770	Re: XR4Ti Build Progress - Updated 06-23-08 Last action shots until spring, as we finished our 2008 autocross season yesterday. Did well even with the car being "down" with a stock, open, breath on the throttle and burn tire, differential. It was a lesson in smoothness as we had NO corner exit acceleration. Was able to pull a 1-2 victory in class with myself and my codriver taking first and second, respectively. Overall, great season and while i am unhappy it's already over, it gives us time to get the new rear end figured out while deciding on a few other tweaks here and there for the off season. anyway, pics: out of the hole = zero accel. had to basically feather the throttle and at no point in time could we dip into it. man, that was hard. excercising my right to take corners as wide and make everything into a sweeper to maintain momentum. here are some shots of smoke3006 having some fun with his 86 xr: __________________ Cable Ties. Is there anything they can't fix? Driver > Car - in memory of GaryK *Roadtrippin.org* \| CART Last edited by Ray : 10-20-2008 at 07:04 AM.

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