saleen updated

[focusbandit43]

added 4 speackers to the trunk. than covered then. will be sprayed to match. let me know your thought.
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http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/f...3/DSCI0409.jpg
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http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/f...3/DSCI0406.jpg
i also remounted my front bumper b/c someone pointed out some slite waves and bends
http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/f...3/DSCI0413.jpg
let me know wha u think.

[Honkeytonk Monkey]

Why did you toss a bunch of 6x9s in the hatch panel? Or are those more junk factory speakers? The panel isn't secure so the speakers will just shake the crap out of it and they aren't even the same type of speakers so they will be playing the frequencies differently.

I'm frightened to ask, but what are you powering those speakers with? If you're running them and the factory speakers directly from the head unit, you are going to run into problems down the line.

This is going to sound mean, but I'm being honest. Throw that hatch cover out and buy a new one. Then read up in the audio Forums and start over. You seem to have kept the car pretty clean, so I don't know if this post is a joke, or if you just don't understand the concept of more speaker does not equal better sound yet. Also your wiring looks to be twisted wires covered in blue tape hanging down into a hatch with a bottle of nitrous? That's not safe at all.

Component speakers, or at least upgrades in the factory locations come first, then a subwoofer if you require more low frequency coverage, then you look at amplifiers to run yout front soundstage. I wouldn't even bother hooking up the rear door speakers in a car anymore unless I had a 4 door and took on passengers alot. Most SQ comp champion cars have only a set of components in the front, and thier amplifiers and subwoofers in the back, that's al you need for a stereo system (2 channels)

Like I said, and will likely be restated by some others, take it out and look into some other setups before you start again. Again, no offence intended just being honest.

[DKDunn04]

Not sure about that speaker install, but the exterior looks great.

[01focuszx3]

What i think about the speakers, i don't like it, sorry not being mean. As for the rest of the car, it's awesome

[secondechomatt]

so, you put 4 speakers of questionable quality in the worst possible location for speakers in the focus hatch?

congrats.

[focusbandit43]

Originally Posted by Honkeytonk Monkey

Why did you toss a bunch of 6x9s in the hatch panel? Or are those more junk factory speakers? The panel isn't secure so the speakers will just shake the crap out of it and they aren't even the same type of speakers so they will be playing the frequencies differently.

I'm frightened to ask, but what are you powering those speakers with? If you're running them and the factory speakers directly from the head unit, you are going to run into problems down the line.

This is going to sound mean, but I'm being honest. Throw that hatch cover out and buy a new one. Then read up in the audio Forums and start over. You seem to have kept the car pretty clean, so I don't know if this post is a joke, or if you just don't understand the concept of more speaker does not equal better sound yet. Also your wiring looks to be twisted wires covered in blue tape hanging down into a hatch with a bottle of nitrous? That's not safe at all.

Component speakers, or at least upgrades in the factory locations come first, then a subwoofer if you require more low frequency coverage, then you look at amplifiers to run yout front soundstage. I wouldn't even bother hooking up the rear door speakers in a car anymore unless I had a 4 door and took on passengers alot. Most SQ comp champion cars have only a set of components in the front, and thier amplifiers and subwoofers in the back, that's al you need for a stereo system (2 channels)

Like I said, and will likely be restated by some others, take it out and look into some other setups before you start again. Again, no offence intended just being honest.

sounds to me that u are on a way higher level than i am when it comes to audio. audio is the last thing on my mind but i still wanted to change up the system. i have had no problems with them yet. there is 6 upgraded oem speackers and 2 origional. the four on the lip are tied onto the rear speackers. its loud and hits like a 12" sub. i dont know were u see blue tape, those are connectors. if i was big into audio i know im headed in the wrong direction. but being different was what i was going for weather anyone likes it or not. thanks fr the coments

[J_Train]

Originally Posted by Honkeytonk Monkey

Why did you toss a bunch of 6x9s in the hatch panel? Or are those more junk factory speakers? The panel isn't secure so the speakers will just shake the crap out of it and they aren't even the same type of speakers so they will be playing the frequencies differently.

I'm frightened to ask, but what are you powering those speakers with? If you're running them and the factory speakers directly from the head unit, you are going to run into problems down the line.

This is going to sound mean, but I'm being honest. Throw that hatch cover out and buy a new one. Then read up in the audio Forums and start over. You seem to have kept the car pretty clean, so I don't know if this post is a joke, or if you just don't understand the concept of more speaker does not equal better sound yet. Also your wiring looks to be twisted wires covered in blue tape hanging down into a hatch with a bottle of nitrous? That's not safe at all.

Component speakers, or at least upgrades in the factory locations come first, then a subwoofer if you require more low frequency coverage, then you look at amplifiers to run yout front soundstage. I wouldn't even bother hooking up the rear door speakers in a car anymore unless I had a 4 door and took on passengers alot. Most SQ comp champion cars have only a set of components in the front, and thier amplifiers and subwoofers in the back, that's al you need for a stereo system (2 channels)

Like I said, and will likely be restated by some others, take it out and look into some other setups before you start again. Again, no offence intended just being honest.

Originally Posted by secondechomatt

so, you put 4 speakers of questionable quality in the worst possible location for speakers in the focus hatch?

congrats.

Like he said he wants it to be different. plus theres not enough power going through those speaker to cause any rattling. the car looks great. oh and if he has speaker in the back then adds subs later and get everything set up correctly he will have more voice than bass if he has the hatch open with the cover down. and for you info the reason i know this will work is because i have done this to mutiple Focus' in where I use to work. All i have to say is great work Greg

[SALEEN_N2O]

it looks good to me!

im going to be doing the same to mine but only 2 6x9 speakers in the middle!!

[rynonuts]

it looks really good nice work must sound pretty good inside

[rynonuts]

by the way what figlights are those for the saleen front bumper i have an 05 saleen and i really like those foglights

[glowin3232]

I dont like it, sorry. Also, I dont see how 4 stock crap speakers mounted on a hatch cover could sound like a 12" sub. The rest of the car looks great though.

[focusbandit43]

Originally Posted by rynonuts

by the way what figlights are those for the saleen front bumper i have an 05 saleen and i really like those foglights

i got them from an auto store for i think 50 they are crapy and a half inch too big. i wana replace them with projecter fogs. i had them on for 3 months before they started taking on water.

[rynonuts]

oh ok thanks for the info about the lights

[DoctaBeat]

I guess it could sound alright, but I would have waited until I could afford some sort of box for them back there. I don't know. It looks cool, no doubt, but I am a sound quality junkie, so I'm not sure what I think, really. Car is fantastic.

[Stolle]

its ok people. he bought a saleen. he must not know much about foci to begin with. relax. its just a fad. it will wear out like that body did 4 years ago.

[focusbandit43]

Originally Posted by Stolle

its ok people. he bought a saleen. he must not know much about foci to begin with. relax. its just a fad. it will wear out like that body did 4 years ago.

wow your stupidity has me speachless. its funny how you think u know me but u dont. if someone ever tried me like that face to face and not though the net. id have to break their jaw. what u said was uncalled for. it had nothing to do with the subject at hand. did putting your 1 cent in make u feel better. its ok though. someone has to play the internet bad azz. please reply

[Stolle]

haha. i cant explain how silly that back setup it. if your going to post something like this. at least dont show us the twisty wires and blue electric tape. u left those wires just hanging there. inches away from your nitrous.

real smart.

anyways. im out of this topic b4 i get into trouble.

[Azwethinkweiz]

Think about what you're saying... Be a little more considerate man, you've come off as a complete tool lately. If you're going to say garbage like this in every thread just stop posting... Or keep it up and I don't think it'll even be an option.

Think about your car 2 years ago until you started posting on this site and seeing what was out there... Now you have a cool car because you imitated an SVT and call it "oem plus" and think you can rip on anyone and say what you want, including to me outside of FJ.... Have a little respect..

Leave his setup alone. It's not ideal, and definitely isn't the optimum setup but its his car, either post something productive or dont post at all its pretty simple.

[03ZXthree]

^^^ Well said

[focus-blue]

Originally Posted by 03ZXthree

^^^ Well said

X2!

I think it's a pretty rad car! I personally like the Saleen. Sure, it is a bit out there with its body kit, but being a lover of the different Foci out there, it's cool, and definetly a collectors item, at least in our circle of Focaljet car owners. What you did with the speakers is something different and personally I would not have done that, but it is your car and "to each is own."

[Dimitri]

Nice Saleen.

[stilix]

really nice

[Honkeytonk Monkey]

Originally Posted by focusbandit43

sounds to me that u are on a way higher level than i am when it comes to audio. audio is the last thing on my mind but i still wanted to change up the system. i have had no problems with them yet. there is 6 upgraded oem speackers and 2 origional. the four on the lip are tied onto the rear speackers. its loud and hits like a 12" sub. i dont know were u see blue tape, those are connectors. if i was big into audio i know im headed in the wrong direction. but being different was what i was going for weather anyone likes it or not. thanks fr the coments

Like I said I am just being honest, I'm glad if you understand that. Car audio is my hobby, I enjoy it and try to help others where I can.

I see the blue tape is actually in-line connectors, my mistake, but realise those are not a very good permanent sollution, soldered/heatshrunk is the only way to go especially with a bottle of juice a foot away. While you may not have had a problem with anything yet, you probably will especially if you've wired the speakers in a certain way. The head unit's tiny amplifier now has to power an additional 4 drivers off two channels. You could be placing a much lower impedance on the head unit's amplifier which will overheat it and cause it to fail. It's something that may not happen right away, but it's at much higher risk.

You really should consider looking into another setup than what your have there though. While I realise you are trying something different there is a reason nobody does certain things. My own system is very different than a normal setup, but I spent a good chunk of time figuring out what parts and where they would workk before cutting holes.

The speakers you've mounted in the rear will never be able to emulate a subwoofer. First off they are all running together off the factory head unit's 6 watts or so of power. Second, they simply cannot play the frequencies a subwoofer plays. In fact the factory premium speakers play low frequencies quite poorly. What you probably are thinking is a kicking system is actually the four speakers playing redundant mid-bass frequencies, meaning the actual law and high range sounds are being drowned out by the overboosted midrange which you are simply mistaking as real bass.

Simply replacing the factory head unit with an aftermarket head unit worth $200 or even less will make a big difference in sound quality. When you do change the speakers, the rear hatch panel is the worst place to put them as a speakers response requires a solid mouning point, which the removable cargo cover isn't. It doesn't matter if they aren't getting alot of power, if the speakers are producing any vibration, a non-secure mounting location will shake with them. If you mount anywhere besides the doors, kickpanel pods and a-pillar tweeter pods are the only options that will offer an actual improvement.

I'm just hoping to help you improve the system you're starting, maybe getting you on the right track before you get too far down the wrong path. Alo I like getting new people interested in the hobby. While you aren't an audiophile now, after you see what a change you can make with $500 or so you might become interested in the hobby too. It's how I started. Take it from someone who had 2 6x9s sitting in boxes on the rear dash in his first car back in 1993. I made a whole bunch of mistakes, but back then there wasn't an internet with people to steer me right. I found the Contour.org forums and listened to the moderator and the esperienced guys there. Before long all my money was going into new and more interesting systems. I am in no way trying to bash you or in any way look down on what you did, I just know it's not done right. If you saw someone build something and you knew they were doing it wrong you'd probably tell them too.

Just think about it in any case. I have no problem with the rest of your car, like I said you obviously keep it well maintained and take pride in the car and it looks very good. So don't cheap out on this part of it. I understand you are not an audiophile, but this drags down the car as a whole and I'm sure you can appreciate that. That's all I'm gonna say, it's your car so you can do what you like with it.