Introducing: Project "Why would you do that?" - Page 3 - Focaljet

**Nliiitend1** · 07-30-2008, 11:58 AM

Nice progress!

I love reading you guys' project threads, because they always entail on some level something I've entertained doing or have wanted to undertake at some point in time...

Keep up the good work!

**SVTADAM** · 07-30-2008, 12:08 PM

That is looking gorgeous. Very jealous. Always wanted to tear into my daytona like that.

What are your thoughts on the twin cam Lotus designed head that they used on a few cars. Granted I bet parts would be tougher to source, but out of the box those cars...screamed.

**OmniFocus** · 07-30-2008, 12:15 PM

The Lotus head is great from a flow-standpoint, it just has to be treated carefully due to being rare and fragile. The original heads had a recall involving the steel plugs that would cause some sort of cracking, which I believe was remedied with aluminum plugs.

One popular thing to do these days is to modify a DOHC Neon head to bolt onto a 2.2L or 2.5L... It isn't a bolt-on deal, but they flow about as well as the Lotus head and parts are much more common.

I chose to go with the old-school SOHC path to help reduce that amount of custom work in the engine bay, but the DOHC cars definitely kick some ass.

**hotrodkris** · 07-30-2008, 02:00 PM

You flippin rool.

**boostedzx3** · 07-30-2008, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OmniFocus

11" of vented disc looks great behind a 15" wheel.

Were you planning on putting on 5 point harness's so you dont go through the windsheild when you hit the brakes?

**Spatakula** · 07-30-2008, 03:24 PM

Comin' along nicely I see.

-spatakula

**sleeperlove** · 07-30-2008, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OmniFocus

The front brakes are actually already on there.

They are the 11" rotors, hubs, knuckles, and bearings from a Neon SRT-4.

I fail at rechecking the original post

Thanks for telling me anyway

**OmniFocus** · 07-30-2008, 04:06 PM

No worries... it is a lot of data.

**SRT Sharkk** · 08-07-2008, 10:29 AM

Wow... I missed being there for a good weekend of solid productivity! Oh well... the motor and rear suspension and breaks look ***** amazing. I'll hafta make sure I am there next time.

**OmniFocus** · 08-07-2008, 10:36 AM

Yeah, we missed having you around! Next up is Labor Day weekend... August 30th, 31st, and September 1st.

On another note, we used the e-brake for the first time while moving the car Tuesday and discovered that the lever action is a bit more um... efficient than before. One click with little force equals instant rear lock.

I'm going to shorten the handle and adjust out to about three clicks ... I never thought I'd see an e-brake that works TOO well!

**brads03zx3** · 08-08-2008, 01:06 AM

Have you found a solution to an interesting SAI/camber issue?

**OmniFocus** · 08-08-2008, 01:36 AM

I'm going to wait until the engine is installed to figure that one out so it is sitting at the right angle.

There are two ways to go: Modify the knuckle or modify the strut. I'm actually leaning toward filling the upper hole in the knuckle and redrilling it so it matches the angle of an L-body knuckle. I had a daydream about how to accomplish that safely today.

**OmniFocus** · 10-17-2008, 12:08 AM

A few updates for the curious:

My camera is missing with the previous weekend's progress, but once I find it, I'll step back to the carpet install and other work.

The dork readies the welder. See the bracket/reinforcement down on the core support? Some nice fellow ground off the welds holding it onto a factory turbo car. While I could have made my own, it is nice to have a factory reinforcement to beef up the non-turbo car.

Bzzzzzzzt:

The E-brake handle is too long with the new cable shifter setup, so here is part of the shortening process. We cut 2" from the handle and button release bar and welded them back together.

Shortened and painted release bar:

E-brake handle ready to weld:

Bzzzzzzt:

New water and oil lines for turbo:

Setting it down on the ground to bolt up the flywheel/pp/transaxle:

Zee Flyveel:

Transaxle bolted up, brackets and starter attached:

Weee!

Closer.....

Bolted in!

**Random** · 10-17-2008, 12:27 AM

Wow looks like fun... keep the updates coming

**ZedX31485** · 10-17-2008, 01:03 AM

holy shart that thing is gonna be a beast

**biscuitninja** · 10-17-2008, 01:09 AM

weak and SAD!

Now when you're finished go terrorize that ricer kids!

good luck, its an awsome project!
-bix

**brads03zx3** · 10-17-2008, 02:26 AM

It was so nice being able to stay in front of you in the twisties (what, 3 minutes

). Guess that won't be happening any time soon

Actually, I may have a slight chance if you drive the taco

**thefrush** · 10-17-2008, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brads03zx3

Actually, I may have a slight chance if you drive the taco

I wouldn't be so sure...

**OmniFocus** · 10-17-2008, 11:29 AM

If only I weren't so concerned with keeping at least one vehicle reliable, the Taco would be turbo'd in a heartbeat.

**SVTADAM** · 10-17-2008, 04:19 PM

Oh that is just so pretty! Nice work!

**hEaT** · 10-17-2008, 04:24 PM

Nice!

Why the FRAM turd? lol

**OmniFocus** · 10-17-2008, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hEaT

Nice!

Why the FRAM turd? lol

The FRAM is intentional. It only needs to last about 100 miles.

**OmniFocus** · 10-18-2008, 01:37 AM

WOOO! As of a few minutes ago, the clutch pedal works and the shifter cables shift. Gotta love taking twice as long doing a two person job by yourself.

**brads03zx3** · 10-18-2008, 01:40 AM

I use FRAM filters to break in my engines too

07-30-2008, 11:58 AM	#51
Nliiitend1 It's NOT progressive. IT'S LINEAR!!!! Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: 32224 Posts: 4,266	Re: Introducing: Project "Why would you do that?" Nice progress! I love reading you guys' project threads, because they always entail on some level something I've entertained doing or have wanted to undertake at some point in time... Keep up the good work! __________________ RIP: Modified Liquid Grey S2: 5-speed RIP: Modified 2001 White ZX3: 5-speed 2008 MS3 GT w/ no options 2006 Suzuki SV650N

07-30-2008, 12:08 PM	#52
SVTADAM Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Connecticut Posts: 3,083	Re: Introducing: Project "Why would you do that?" That is looking gorgeous. Very jealous. Always wanted to tear into my daytona like that. What are your thoughts on the twin cam Lotus designed head that they used on a few cars. Granted I bet parts would be tougher to source, but out of the box those cars...screamed. __________________ Black Aria...#1211 built in 2002 Rain...1990 Ford Escort Wagon "Dear Diary...Jackpot!" Giggity Giggity Goo!

07-30-2008, 12:15 PM	#53
OmniFocus Moderator Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Mowin' down the cones. (CA) Posts: 26,236	Re: Introducing: Project "Why would you do that?" The Lotus head is great from a flow-standpoint, it just has to be treated carefully due to being rare and fragile. The original heads had a recall involving the steel plugs that would cause some sort of cracking, which I believe was remedied with aluminum plugs. One popular thing to do these days is to modify a DOHC Neon head to bolt onto a 2.2L or 2.5L... It isn't a bolt-on deal, but they flow about as well as the Lotus head and parts are much more common. I chose to go with the old-school SOHC path to help reduce that amount of custom work in the engine bay, but the DOHC cars definitely kick some ass. __________________ Check out the shiny new PirateNinjasWithLasers.com for the latest updates in 24 Hours of LeMons goodness. Vacuum Vulture Racing: We put the "rad" in scrub radius, and the "ack" in ackerman.

07-30-2008, 02:00 PM	#54
hotrodkris The One and Only HotRodKristina Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Castle Albrecht Posts: 27,375	Re: Introducing: Project "Why would you do that?" You flippin rool. __________________ >>>PirateNinjasWithLasers.com is now live!<<< Official Pace Car of Vacuum Vulture Racing - They mostly come out at night. Mostly. We possess ART lest we perish from the TRUTH.

07-30-2008, 03:24 PM	#56
Spatakula cUsToM tItLe - You're Welcome. - Drew Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 8,000	Re: Introducing: Project "Why would you do that?" Comin' along nicely I see. -spatakula __________________ 2002 SVTF #602

07-30-2008, 04:06 PM	#58
OmniFocus Moderator Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Mowin' down the cones. (CA) Posts: 26,236	Re: Introducing: Project "Why would you do that?" No worries... it is a lot of data. __________________ Check out the shiny new PirateNinjasWithLasers.com for the latest updates in 24 Hours of LeMons goodness. Vacuum Vulture Racing: We put the "rad" in scrub radius, and the "ack" in ackerman.

08-07-2008, 10:29 AM	#59
SRT Sharkk TEAM Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Doin the Happy Dance... Doin the Happy Dance Posts: 182	Re: Introducing: Project "Why would you do that?" Wow... I missed being there for a good weekend of solid productivity! Oh well... the motor and rear suspension and breaks look *** amazing. I'll hafta make sure I am there next time. __________________ Pit Crew Beef, Vacuum Vulture Racing We put the "Rod" in Aerodynamics... "No, you can't do that... you can't triple stamp a double stamp, you can't triple stamp a double stamp! Lloyd!" -Harry Dunne** --------------------------------------------------------------------- 2005 Stone White SRT-4 17x7.5 Kosie K-1's / Wing delete / Full Chassis Energy Suspension Polly Bushings

08-07-2008, 10:36 AM	#60
OmniFocus Moderator Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Mowin' down the cones. (CA) Posts: 26,236	Re: Introducing: Project "Why would you do that?" Yeah, we missed having you around! Next up is Labor Day weekend... August 30th, 31st, and September 1st. On another note, we used the e-brake for the first time while moving the car Tuesday and discovered that the lever action is a bit more um... efficient than before. One click with little force equals instant rear lock. I'm going to shorten the handle and adjust out to about three clicks ... I never thought I'd see an e-brake that works TOO well! __________________ Check out the shiny new PirateNinjasWithLasers.com for the latest updates in 24 Hours of LeMons goodness. Vacuum Vulture Racing: We put the "rad" in scrub radius, and the "ack" in ackerman.

08-08-2008, 01:06 AM	#61
brads03zx3 [FJ] Specialist Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: California Posts: 9,071	Re: Introducing: Project "Why would you do that?" Have you found a solution to an interesting SAI/camber issue? __________________ Mountain Tested----'03 zetec DuraMonster---'03 duratec ZX3 vs MNTN - 9/0 & ZX3 vs TRACK - 4/1 *JCM Racing #88* Bouncing Back---Bigger, Faster, Stronger Vacuum Vulture Racing - We put the ARG in 'CHARGED

08-08-2008, 01:36 AM	#62
OmniFocus Moderator Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Mowin' down the cones. (CA) Posts: 26,236	Re: Introducing: Project "Why would you do that?" I'm going to wait until the engine is installed to figure that one out so it is sitting at the right angle. There are two ways to go: Modify the knuckle or modify the strut. I'm actually leaning toward filling the upper hole in the knuckle and redrilling it so it matches the angle of an L-body knuckle. I had a daydream about how to accomplish that safely today. __________________ Check out the shiny new PirateNinjasWithLasers.com for the latest updates in 24 Hours of LeMons goodness. Vacuum Vulture Racing: We put the "rad" in scrub radius, and the "ack" in ackerman.

10-17-2008, 12:08 AM	#63
OmniFocus Moderator Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Mowin' down the cones. (CA) Posts: 26,236	Re: Introducing: Project "Why would you do that?" A few updates for the curious: My camera is missing with the previous weekend's progress, but once I find it, I'll step back to the carpet install and other work. The dork readies the welder. See the bracket/reinforcement down on the core support? Some nice fellow ground off the welds holding it onto a factory turbo car. While I could have made my own, it is nice to have a factory reinforcement to beef up the non-turbo car. Bzzzzzzzt: The E-brake handle is too long with the new cable shifter setup, so here is part of the shortening process. We cut 2" from the handle and button release bar and welded them back together. Shortened and painted release bar: E-brake handle ready to weld: Bzzzzzzt: New water and oil lines for turbo: Setting it down on the ground to bolt up the flywheel/pp/transaxle: Zee Flyveel: Transaxle bolted up, brackets and starter attached: Weee! Closer..... Bolted in! __________________ Check out the shiny new PirateNinjasWithLasers.com for the latest updates in 24 Hours of LeMons goodness. Vacuum Vulture Racing: We put the "rad" in scrub radius, and the "ack" in ackerman.

10-17-2008, 12:27 AM	#64
Random TEAM Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Portland, Or Posts: 855	Re: Introducing: Project "Why would you do that?" Wow looks like fun... keep the updates coming __________________ Semper Fi Fellow Marines 7:22? Thats right its a Viper; http://videos.streetfire.net/video/V...722_179743.htm "To go wrong in one's own way is better than to go right in someone else's." -Fyodor Dostoevky

10-17-2008, 01:03 AM	#65
ZedX31485 Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Iowa Posts: 3,415	Re: Introducing: Project "Why would you do that?" holy shart that thing is gonna be a beast __________________ Gone: 2001 Pitch Black ZX3 New: 2008 Reflex Silver GTI with DSG

10-17-2008, 01:09 AM	#66
biscuitninja [FJ] Specialist Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 6,646	Re: Introducing: Project "Why would you do that?" weak and SAD! Now when you're finished go terrorize that ricer kids! good luck, its an awsome project! -bix __________________ 2008 Prediction: In the immortial words of Clubber Lang... "my prediction ... PAIN! " Waiting to pounce on a foreclosed home!

10-17-2008, 02:26 AM	#67
brads03zx3 [FJ] Specialist Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: California Posts: 9,071	Re: Introducing: Project "Why would you do that?" It was so nice being able to stay in front of you in the twisties (what, 3 minutes ). Guess that won't be happening any time soon Actually, I may have a slight chance if you drive the taco __________________ Mountain Tested----'03 zetec DuraMonster---'03 duratec ZX3 vs MNTN - 9/0 & ZX3 vs TRACK - 4/1 *JCM Racing #88* Bouncing Back---Bigger, Faster, Stronger Vacuum Vulture Racing - We put the ARG in 'CHARGED

10-17-2008, 11:29 AM	#69
OmniFocus Moderator Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Mowin' down the cones. (CA) Posts: 26,236	Re: Introducing: Project "Why would you do that?" If only I weren't so concerned with keeping at least one vehicle reliable, the Taco would be turbo'd in a heartbeat. __________________ Check out the shiny new PirateNinjasWithLasers.com for the latest updates in 24 Hours of LeMons goodness. Vacuum Vulture Racing: We put the "rad" in scrub radius, and the "ack" in ackerman.

10-17-2008, 04:19 PM	#70
SVTADAM Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Connecticut Posts: 3,083	Re: Introducing: Project "Why would you do that?" Oh that is just so pretty! Nice work! __________________ Black Aria...#1211 built in 2002 Rain...1990 Ford Escort Wagon "Dear Diary...Jackpot!" Giggity Giggity Goo!

10-17-2008, 04:24 PM	#71
hEaT [FJ] Specialist Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: CT Posts: 5,646	Re: Introducing: Project "Why would you do that?" Nice! Why the FRAM turd? lol __________________ 2001 Twilight Blue ZX3 - Volant Intake, FC 65mm TB, SVT Header, RT High Flow Cat, SVTF Borla Exhaust, Koni's 1985 Nimbus Grey Merkur XR4Ti - Work In Progress Tuned By: Bristol Dyno

10-18-2008, 01:37 AM	#73
OmniFocus Moderator Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Mowin' down the cones. (CA) Posts: 26,236	Re: Introducing: Project "Why would you do that?" WOOO! As of a few minutes ago, the clutch pedal works and the shifter cables shift. Gotta love taking twice as long doing a two person job by yourself. __________________ Check out the shiny new PirateNinjasWithLasers.com for the latest updates in 24 Hours of LeMons goodness. Vacuum Vulture Racing: We put the "rad" in scrub radius, and the "ack" in ackerman.

10-18-2008, 01:40 AM	#74
brads03zx3 [FJ] Specialist Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: California Posts: 9,071	Re: Introducing: Project "Why would you do that?" I use FRAM filters to break in my engines too __________________ Mountain Tested----'03 zetec DuraMonster---'03 duratec ZX3 vs MNTN - 9/0 & ZX3 vs TRACK - 4/1 *JCM Racing #88* Bouncing Back---Bigger, Faster, Stronger Vacuum Vulture Racing - We put the ARG in 'CHARGED