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**SuperFlea** · 07-28-2006, 02:57 PM

hem,?!?! it does sound like it could be your DPFE, maybe too much exhuast is flowing into your engine?. Mine doeas the same, but i get like a BOG at first then it starts going really slow like if i as pulling something heavy.

**Nells** · 08-15-2006, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by GapBoyPCS

Not necessarily. There have been a bunch of us who have had symptoms of a DPFE sensor malfunction, yet no Check Engine Light. A few days later, the light MAY come on, but it's not guaranteed.

This is what always messes me up, I think I have had a CEL once (and I had an 02 sensor bad at the same time) but I have replaced something like 3 DPFE sensors in 32,000 miles and I'm just about to get number 4.

Where is the cheapest place to pick one of these up? Dealership wants $113.00

**Jibberish18** · 08-16-2006, 03:52 AM

Get in the zone! Auto-zone!

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DPFE/EGR Valve Pressure Sensor for a
2000 Ford Focus

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**Nells** · 08-16-2006, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ax0n

They won't replace it under warranty until the CEL comes on and the OBD-II code specifically says "Insufficient EGR Flow" or something to that effect. That takes a LONG time from the time it starts to fail. That means you go a long time with a lot of crappy mileage and driveability before they'll replace it free. If you feel like waiting it out, be my guest. Not to rain on your parade, but you'll probably be well out of warranty by the time that happens.

This isn't true at all. I had it replaced 3 times all under warranty and it only threw a code one time.

I went to AutoZone today and picked one up. Didn't realize until I got home that it was the wrong one

**Jibberish18** · 08-18-2006, 06:57 AM

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I went to AutoZone today and picked one up. Didn't realize until I got home that it was the wrong one [IMG]../images/smilies/frown.gif[/IMG]

Sorry Nells. $130 is pretty ridiculous. I know different DPFE sensors cost different amounts. Last time I checked, the dealership carried a DPFE for my car for $70 or $80. Big difference from $130.

Maybe you can check around at other automotive stores. If not see if Steve from Tousley can get you one. He'll give it to ya for 10% over cost!

**ax0n** · 08-18-2006, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Nells

This isn't true at all. I had it replaced 3 times all under warranty and it only threw a code one time.

I went to AutoZone today and picked one up. Didn't realize until I got home that it was the wrong one

You're the first one then, because almost all the KC Zetec guys (there's more than 12 of us) tried to get it replaced under warranty to no avail. And that sucks, because from my experience, the original DPFE started showing symptoms as soon as 9,000 miles, but didn't actually throw a code till after 30,000. Only then did they replace mine, despite my request to change it every time I had it in the shop for a recall.

Some people's CEL doesn't come on till after 36,000 miles and they're SOL if they didn't have the extended warranty.

After they finally replaced mine, I blocked the vac line to the EGR valve, and later got it fixed with the SCT.

Anyhow, mad props to whatever dealership you went to. the 4 or 5 out here that I tried weren't buying my "faulty DPFE" story.

**Nells** · 08-18-2006, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ax0n

You're the first one then, because almost all the KC Zetec guys (there's more than 12 of us) tried to get it replaced under warranty to no avail. And that sucks, because from my experience, the original DPFE started showing symptoms as soon as 9,000 miles, but didn't actually throw a code till after 30,000. Only then did they replace mine, despite my request to change it every time I had it in the shop for a recall.

Some people's CEL doesn't come on till after 36,000 miles and they're SOL if they didn't have the extended warranty.

After they finally replaced mine, I blocked the vac line to the EGR valve, and later got it fixed with the SCT.

Anyhow, mad props to whatever dealership you went to. the 4 or 5 out here that I tried weren't buying my "faulty DPFE" story.

All I did was complained that my car was stumbling. I left it up to them to figure out it was the DPFE sensor

I'm pretty sure it was replaced twice at one dealership and once at another, although it was throwing quite a few codes for the second dealership. I was kind of a pain in the butt though, maybe that's why they fixed it

My car only has 33,000 miles on it right now.

Jibberish, I didn't pay the $113 my dealership wanted for it, I picked it up from Autozone for $32 (although I have to go back and get the other style-silly me for not checking before I left).

**Jibberish18** · 08-18-2006, 02:24 PM

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Jibberish, I didn't pay the $113 my dealership wanted for it, I picked it up from Autozone for $32 (although I have to go back and get the other style-silly me for not checking before I left). __________________

Oh I see. I thought Autozone only had one type and that type wasn't made for your car. Well rock on then good lady.

**Nells** · 08-22-2006, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Jibberish18

Oh I see. I thought Autozone only had one type and that type wasn't made for your car. Well rock on then good lady.

Well no luck with the Autozone one. The correct one for my car ended up costing $100, a far cry from the $33 they originally charged

Who is Steve from Tousley? Can you put me in contact with him please? Thanks!

**ax0n** · 08-22-2006, 11:05 AM

Here's a post he made that has his info's in it.

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Originally Posted by FORDSVTPARTS

Hey guys, I am offering all OEM Ford, Lincoln and Mercury car and truck parts to forum members for 10% over cost.

This is the same as employee cost and amounts to about 30-40% off list on Ford and 40-50% off list on Motorcraft parts.

We carry a 2.5 million dollar inventory spanning approximately 40,000 part numbers.

This offer is for any and all OEM Ford parts you need, Freight is billed at cost with a $6.50 minimum for UPS ground.

We ship UPS daily with the last pick up being at 6:00 pm central time.

I do not charge extra for special orders and I will accept returns on unused parts providing you pay the freight coming back to me.

I can be reached from 8:00 am to 5:30 pm Mon-Fri at 1-800-328-9552 ask for Steve or Mike M.

I will also respond to PM's as quickly as possible.

You can also E-mail me at FORDSVTPARTS@HOTMAIL.COM

If you have an AOL E-mail address, use PM's or Phone. For some reason AOL won't accept E-mail from a Hotmail address.

We will only be able to quote prices during business hours so please be patient, We will get back to you as soon as possible.

**Nells** · 08-23-2006, 05:16 PM

Thanks Axon. I ordered it yesterday afternoon and it came on the UPS truck today. Wonderful and fast service!

**blackgrrl23** · 09-01-2006, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by krick

I have a 2001 Focus ZX3. My Check Engine Light came on about 2 weeks ago, shortly after exhibiting the "fluttering throttle" problem around 45mph. I had no idea what the problem was so I took the car to my mechanic for service. They claimed to have replaced some kind of "EGR Switch". I haven't actually popped the hood and looked to see what they did but they must have done something because the CEL is no longer lit. However, the fluttering is still there, it's just less pronounced and moved up to the 50 - 60mph range so I'm guessing that they didn't actually replace the DPFE sensor.

I googled a bit today and found the part number for the new sensor...

4U7Z-9J460-AA

...and a place that sells them for $28.29 + $7.50 shipping...

http://www.worldpartsexpress.com/

I saw some talk in the forums about the connector on the new sensors being different (as well as some of the 01 models having the non-firewall mounted versions) so I'm hoping this will fit. Or at the very least, I can make it fit by modifying the connector if it is different.

I ordered that and got the newer style sensor. I don't have money to go back and swap for the old so I will have to rig this new one to fit (the electrical connectors are different). The dealer quoted me $141 for the classic style sensor!!!

ANyone have instructions on how to "rig" the newer sensor to fit the old connectors? The one on the car is the firewall-mounted one and I got the one that hooks up by the EGR. Thanks!

**ax0n** · 09-01-2006, 08:37 AM

eek... I wouldn't know how to rig it without having my eyes and multimeter on it.

**blackgrrl23** · 09-01-2006, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ax0n

eek... I wouldn't know how to rig it without having my eyes and multimeter on it.

Thanks for trying...I might just have to break down and go to the dealer...I am calling around now to see who has it in stock. My tags expired yesterday and it would be the time I need to pass emissions :|

**Giveen** · 09-09-2006, 11:34 PM

What are the effects of a bad DPFE sensor on the car? Is it just the fluttering or is there a posible extreme negative effect on the car? Can I still drive the car safely or should I stop driving and wait for a brand new sensor?

**Nells** · 09-13-2006, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by blackgrrl23

I ordered that and got the newer style sensor. I don't have money to go back and swap for the old so I will have to rig this new one to fit (the electrical connectors are different). The dealer quoted me $141 for the classic style sensor!!!

ANyone have instructions on how to "rig" the newer sensor to fit the old connectors? The one on the car is the firewall-mounted one and I got the one that hooks up by the EGR. Thanks!

Steve from Tousley Ford gave me one for $60ish. It literally showed up 24 hours after I ordered it too. Can you return the new style sensor so you can buy the proper one?

**SuperFlea** · 09-13-2006, 08:12 PM

You might be able to. Unless it looks used or even misused.

**dmich** · 09-22-2006, 11:06 PM

My '01 ZX3 has been stumbling like crazy at lower RPM when the throttle is held constant. I had the CEL come on tonight. I pray it's the DPFE, simple and cheap to fix. I'll find out tomorrow when I go to VatoZone and have them check the code.

**infocusNW** · 10-11-2006, 02:17 AM

60,000 miles and I'm now on my 3rd one (2001 ZX3). It's the new style.

Napa part number 2-22003 and only $33.33. Dealer wanted $53 and change.

**blackgrrl23** · 10-17-2006, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Nells

Steve from Tousley Ford gave me one for $60ish. It literally showed up 24 hours after I ordered it too. Can you return the new style sensor so you can buy the proper one?

Just ordered a new one from steve too....waiting for it now

**TonyMadrid** · 10-23-2006, 05:03 PM

Autozone part number for the new style is SU2308. It is manufactured by Wells and I spoke with a tech guy at wells who cross-referenced the part number to the Ford OEM part number.

I am picking the part up tomorrtow and I hope that the problem is the DPFE and not the EGR Valve itself. I had a P0401 Code.

Does changing the DPFE Sensor usually correct the trouble code or have there been many cases where the EGR Valve and perhaps the Solenoid or modulator have to be also changed?

EGR Valve 51.99
EGR Solenoid 61.99
DPFE 39.99

Autozone prices

**Digitex1** · 01-06-2007, 11:09 PM

Hi, new poster here. reading this thread and am recognize some of the common symptoms you guys are experiencing. I have some of these symptoms but not sure if the cause is the same. Let me lay it out for your erxamination. '04 ZX5 ok. I first added a CAI. Car died at idle on me a couple of times at first but I think the computer adjusted itself. then added a cat back system. I then added a long tube header. I am now having issues. Poor idle when it idles, it now sometimes idles @ 1400 to 2000 and then drops down a bit. The throttle also keeps surging up to around 3500-4000 between shifts intermittently. I plugged the egr vacuum hoping to eliminate the egr system or fixing the issues. The idle problem is there still, don't know yet about the surging. Added MIL elim on 2nd O2 also. Any one else in the same boat? Can' tthink of what else might cause these symptoms. Feel free to e-mail me with comments. digitex1@yahoo.com

Bryan

07-28-2006, 02:57 PM	#51
SuperFlea Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: South Of The Border! Posts: 3,667	Re: More DPFE Sensor information (updated with photos) hem,?!?! it does sound like it could be your DPFE, maybe too much exhuast is flowing into your engine?. Mine doeas the same, but i get like a BOG at first then it starts going really slow like if i as pulling something heavy. __________________ <-Jonathan-> July 2007 FOTM Winner! This space available - Call 1 (800) 2 Post It , No Credit? Bad Credit? No problem! E-Z Financing. I Like Engine Pics!

08-23-2006, 05:16 PM	#61
Nells [FJ] Specialist Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Neenah, Wisconsin Posts: 7,238	Re: More DPFE Sensor information (updated with photos) Thanks Axon. I ordered it yesterday afternoon and it came on the UPS truck today. Wonderful and fast service! __________________ 2003 White ZX3 "Whatever women do, they must do it twice as well as men to be thought half as good. Luckily, this is not difficult" Charlotte Whitton

09-01-2006, 08:37 AM	#63
ax0n Devil's Advocate. Just to cheese you off. Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: In ur srvrz patchin ur krnlz Posts: 24,425	Re: More DPFE Sensor information (updated with photos) eek... I wouldn't know how to rig it without having my eyes and multimeter on it. __________________ Cars: ['00 ZX3] ['03 Explorer] Bikes: [DB Sorrento] [DB Outlook] [Trek 1200] [FocusHacks] : Ford Focus Tech & Maintenance Tips [KC Bike Commuting Blog]: Rants from the streets of KC [HiR Information Report (rss)] : Get your fill of Geek Humor, Security, and Unix

09-13-2006, 08:12 PM	#67
SuperFlea Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: South Of The Border! Posts: 3,667	Re: More DPFE Sensor information (updated with photos) You might be able to. Unless it looks used or even misused. __________________ <-Jonathan-> July 2007 FOTM Winner! This space available - Call 1 (800) 2 Post It , No Credit? Bad Credit? No problem! E-Z Financing. I Like Engine Pics!

09-22-2006, 11:06 PM	#68
dmich TEAM Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Detroit, MI Posts: 389	Re: More DPFE Sensor information (updated with photos) My '01 ZX3 has been stumbling like crazy at lower RPM when the throttle is held constant. I had the CEL come on tonight. I pray it's the DPFE, simple and cheap to fix. I'll find out tomorrow when I go to VatoZone and have them check the code.

10-11-2006, 02:17 AM	#69
infocusNW TEAM Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Portland, OR USA Posts: 107	Re: More DPFE Sensor information (updated with photos) 60,000 miles and I'm now on my 3rd one (2001 ZX3). It's the new style. Napa part number 2-22003 and only $33.33. Dealer wanted $53 and change.

10-23-2006, 05:03 PM	#71
TonyMadrid Newbie Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1	Re: More DPFE Sensor information (updated with photos) Autozone part number for the new style is SU2308. It is manufactured by Wells and I spoke with a tech guy at wells who cross-referenced the part number to the Ford OEM part number. I am picking the part up tomorrtow and I hope that the problem is the DPFE and not the EGR Valve itself. I had a P0401 Code. Does changing the DPFE Sensor usually correct the trouble code or have there been many cases where the EGR Valve and perhaps the Solenoid or modulator have to be also changed? EGR Valve 51.99 EGR Solenoid 61.99 DPFE 39.99 Autozone prices

01-06-2007, 11:09 PM	#72
Digitex1 Newbie Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3	Re: More DPFE Sensor information (updated with photos) Hi, new poster here. reading this thread and am recognize some of the common symptoms you guys are experiencing. I have some of these symptoms but not sure if the cause is the same. Let me lay it out for your erxamination. '04 ZX5 ok. I first added a CAI. Car died at idle on me a couple of times at first but I think the computer adjusted itself. then added a cat back system. I then added a long tube header. I am now having issues. Poor idle when it idles, it now sometimes idles @ 1400 to 2000 and then drops down a bit. The throttle also keeps surging up to around 3500-4000 between shifts intermittently. I plugged the egr vacuum hoping to eliminate the egr system or fixing the issues. The idle problem is there still, don't know yet about the surging. Added MIL elim on 2nd O2 also. Any one else in the same boat? Can' tthink of what else might cause these symptoms. Feel free to e-mail me with comments. digitex1@yahoo.com Bryan Last edited by Digitex1 : 01-06-2007 at 11:46 PM.