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When a man leaves himself WIDE open, I take advantage of it
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Hopewell, PA (But, San Diego at heart)
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Thanks to Steve (FORDSVTPARTS)...he helped me with this a few weeks ago...so I used most of his instructions, and added some stuff. Everybody's had problems with this...and everybody thinks that it is going to cost a ton of money, or you have to drill it out...well you dont...here it is:
1. To replace the cylinder you just remove the column shrouds to gain access to the cylinder, you will need to be able to turn the cylinder to remove it the easy way. 2. If you are having probems getting your key to turn then try the old "hit it with the palm of your hand method". This should be enough to get the key turned. 3. Turn the steering wheel 1/2 turn to the right so that you have easy access to the lock cylinder, and some working room. With the key turned to the "on" position, there is a small hole in the housing, that the cylinder goes into, that faces towards the driver, Use a small pick or philips screwdriver or whatever will go in the hole, push in the release pin inside the hole and the cylinder slides right out. 4. If you absolutely can't turn it you will have to drill it out or take it in somewhere and have the job done. 5. Once the old cylinder is out the new one slides in by aligning the "d" shape inside and it will now work, Thats it. Note: Most dealerships will build the cylider to match your keys, some charge for this and others don't. Just call the parts department, give them your VIN...and they can look up your Key Code, cut you a Non-Programed PATS key, and build your new ignition cylinder off of that. Or you can take them your programed key (if you have a spare). If you are like most if us that leave your key in the ignition once you start having this problem...DONT TAKE IT OUT. This will help you in the removal of the broken cylinder. Hope this clears up everyones questions. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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so is it best to get a focus replacement cylinder then? cuz I heard something at one point about getting a explorer cylinder and they can cut it to your key and that it doesnt have this problem. how much are the cylinders?
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Thank you in advance should I ever need these instructions.
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When a man leaves himself WIDE open, I take advantage of it
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Join Date: Oct 2005
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got one question.... well, maybe a couple. right now, i can't get my key to turn at all. i've read somewhere that a slide hammer will do the trick, but do i have to have the key turned in order to make the slide hammer work, or can i just screw a screw into the keyhole and pull it that way?
second question... i ordered a motorcraft cylinder to replace the old one, how do i key it or will i have to have a locksmith do that? i really hope someone can help me... |
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When a man leaves himself WIDE open, I take advantage of it
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you can have any of the parts guys at the ford dealership set the tumblers for your key. You should be able to jar the ignition loose by putting the key in the ignition and hitting the key with the palm of your hand a few times. you only need to turn the key that one time to get it out. If you cant get it...then the job does get a little tricky. You will have to drill it out. I dont really have an answer for you on the slide hammer, as I have never done it...but I would try to get the ignition cylinder loose by the method I mentioned. Good luck...if you have any more questions...feel free to send me a PM and I will do the best I can to answer them.
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My key will go in and out of the ignition cylinder with no problem, but the key will not turn at all. My steering wheel is locked and I can't move it for anything. Should I just give up and take her to the dealer or is there another way to get the cylinder out? I don't have much money being a single mom....please help!
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When a man leaves himself WIDE open, I take advantage of it
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Hey, its the least I can do...I turn my misfortune into a learning experience for all
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Actually the day after this I hit the key with a hammer and it has been working OK ever since! I still ride with a spare ignition cylinder and a printout of these instructions in the glovebox just in case
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When a man leaves himself WIDE open, I take advantage of it
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Change that thing already...do it while you still can, so that you dont have to drill it out.
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Mine sat for a couple weeks, stubbornly refusing to allow any ket rotion despite repeated taps with the palm of my hand and even a hammer on many occasions. I finely decided to suck it up and drill it out. But moments ago, figuring I had nothing to lose, I whacked the sh** out of it with a hammer and it worked.
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b16sir1991 came through with an ignition cylinder. I was using this "how to" along with my Haynes manual to change the cylinder yesterday. Everything went fine except I couldn't for the life of me figure out how to depress the lock plunger/release pin. I was referencing the new cylinder to see how it depresses but couldn't really figure it out. There seems to be a lot of metal on the right side of the hole. That slopes off to flat at the left side of the hole. I feel like I'm missing something. I tried pushing down, pushing to the right. Pushing the key in while pushing down. Nothing, key is in the accessory position. Can someone please try to explain in a little more detail how you to engage that release pin. Thanks.
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When a man leaves himself WIDE open, I take advantage of it
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yes...that pin is sloped so that it is thicker toward the passanger side of the car....push the whole cylinder to the left, so that it releases the pressure on the cylinder...then push the pin in with something as you are sliding out the cylinder. Its tapered so that when you slide the new cylinder in, it will depress on its own, and lock into place.
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Yeah, I had my lock cylinder freeze up on me, OF COURSE 3,000 miles after the warranty went. BEAUTIFUL.
The lock cylinder itself is a good $300 because it has PATS (Passive Anti-Theft Security), meaning it has an electronic chip in it that costs more than a Pentium IV that prevents the car from being stolen. And with that, they'll have to cut two new keys and program those, and that can only be done at Ford. In other words, just prey yours doesn't bust on you. |
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When a man leaves himself WIDE open, I take advantage of it
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Dude....the lock cylinder itself doesnt have the PATS...you can replace the lock cylinder for around $100 thats why I did this write up.
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No ****? Ford might've ripped me off then, those ****ers.
Anyway, I'm suprised alot of people didn't know about that. All Ford lock cylinders since the 70's pull out with a screwdriver when the ignition lock cylinder is in the run position..........just make sure you disconnect the battery ground when doing this ;-) |
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