Just boasting.. (Got'em today!! update: ST200 rims weigh 20 lbs) - Focaljet

**Oreo** · 11-10-2005, 12:04 AM

I just scored myself a set of those ST200 wheels off ebay for.... read'em & weap... $91

(+$95 shipping of course.) Not a bad price for what I consider to be one of the best looking wheels out there for a focus. Slid my bid in there with only 9 seconds left!! My appologies to Ebay member StainOnYourDress, if anyone knows him/her.

My Ebay Score!!

**Z63R** · 11-10-2005, 12:08 AM

You will thoroughly inspect those bargain-basement wheels, won't you?

CoRngrats on a stealofawheeld33l.

**o2_designs** · 11-10-2005, 12:34 AM

Damn, you lucky little ________.

Now find me a cheap set of Recaros out of a SVT.

**Oreo** · 11-10-2005, 01:00 AM

I'll be inspecting them... BUT- you have probably been here long enough to have noticed that I got them from the same guy everyone else has. I haven't heard of any major complaints... YET. Their supposedly OEM wheels- God only knows where this guy is getting them cheap enough to sell them for less than a hundred bucks for a set and still make enough money to make it worth his while.

NOW... if I can only find some bargain basement Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3's

**02_smurf** · 11-10-2005, 01:19 AM

I'm sure another dealer in another country is asking why all the cars that used to have those wheels now have steelies.

**bigdaddyzx3** · 11-10-2005, 01:26 AM

I have a set of these wheels from that seller.
My experience was just fine.

I've developed a theory about where they are coming from...

My theory is that somebody got their hands on some OEM casts from Ford. How? I have no idea. But this guy has been selling them for quite some time now.

I think there is somebody in SoCal knocking these wheels out for this guy. No, I don't have any basis for this idea.

Oh yeah, congrats on the wheels, they rock!

**Oreo** · 11-10-2005, 02:03 AM

Yea, I thought that too... like these aren't EXACTLY OEM per-se.... like if he had someone copying them maybe he could do it on the cheap. I would have thought that the cost of manufacturing alone would be well more than $25/wheel though, but what do I know.

**o2_designs** · 11-10-2005, 08:55 PM

Damn, I would'nt care if they were Ford factory OEM or not, a set of 17s for under 100$ is a steal. I would even buy them for that much, even if I did'nt use them.

**Oreo** · 11-10-2005, 11:47 PM

Well, by the time you count shipping you could round it to be about $200. But yea, that's a great price for such a nice looking set of wheels. Funny to think the tires will cost more than double the price of the wheels!

Mostly I ask where this guy is getting them so cheap out of curiosity though. There have been a number of people using these rims happily, so I'm totally cool if he's got some guy casting these things in his garage... I'd just like to know so I can laugh about it with my friends.

**Notfastenuf** · 11-11-2005, 05:12 PM

Good deal. I thought mine were good at 151 for the 4 (245 with shipping). Mine were in great shape but Ive wondered where they are getting them from.

**focuspl99** · 11-11-2005, 05:27 PM

i dont care where he gets them from...... hahahaha

probably raided some ford wearhouse or hijacked a semi in o-so-classic fast and the furious fashion hahahh

**Oreo** · 11-17-2005, 04:34 PM

Got my wheels today!

I'll take & post some pics of the very minor imperfections- a couple small chips in the paint, etc.

So I weighed them by stepping on my digital bathroom scale (about 5 times each) by myself, and then holding the rim. Comes to about 20 lbs give or take .1 lbs. I was supprized since I was expecting them to be about a pound more. It will be interesting to find out what my stock ST rims weigh sans rubber. I'll have to wait till spring for that though.

So just for giggles, anyone have an oppinion on machining some metal from the rims to save some weight? One area I was thinking was on the back side of the spokes there's a cast in section where the offset info is... I could machine a bit of metal out of each one of the spokes in that area and save maybe a pound/wheel. Horrible idea?

**David Anderson** · 11-17-2005, 04:58 PM

bad idea, just get smaller tires 215 40 17, or empty your trunk. That would be like wanting to shave some of the control arms down to save 2lbs per corner.

**ZX3autoxtasy** · 11-19-2005, 05:17 PM

Quote:

I have a set of these wheels from that seller.
My experience was just fine.

I've developed a theory about where they are coming from...

My theory is that somebody got their hands on some OEM casts from Ford. How? I have no idea. But this guy has been selling them for quite some time now.

I think there is somebody in SoCal knocking these wheels out for this guy. No, I don't have any basis for this idea.

Oh yeah, congrats on the wheels, they rock!

I really don't believe this theory at all. They are too "perfect" and somewhat "imperfect" for it to be true. First off the inside of the rims in the spokes is grey, which to cast, then paint/powdercoat/then clear would be way, way too expensive.

And second, one of my wheels, as many of the people who bought them will say, have a long kinda scratch in the clear around the outside of one or two rims. Ford would call them imperfect definitely.

My thought is they were either purchased from like a warehouse that closed, bought them wholesale from Ford as rejects, or they're definitely "hot".

It would just take too much effort to make them worth it for only $25 a wheel. It would cost more than that in materials alone.

**davlafont** · 11-22-2005, 07:03 PM

I think the wheels are probably just "seconds."

While $25 sounds insanely cheap, the factory that made them probably sold them to crazypayme21 for $5 each. When the factory bid on the Ford ST200 14-spoke wheel contract, they knew what their scrap rate was likely to be. The price Ford pays for its 1st quality wheels is enough to cover these seconds from a material, labor and overhead standpoint. Depending on who is making them, it might cost more to have them taking up floor space than to just dump them on an eTailer. crazypayme21 took a risk by spending thousands of dollars to buy a lot of seconds (a literal "lot") with the hopes that there are enough buyers interested in them. Seems like it was a good gamble.

Any idea what the actual shipping cost was compared to the flat rate you had to pay? I'm guessing that's a source of revenue for crazypayme21 as well, though that might average out if some shipments are actually $100+.

Enjoy the wheels. If they were cheapo garage-jobs, you would have read about them here, I'm sure.

**Oreo** · 11-22-2005, 11:40 PM

Huh... I think that's the best explanation I've heard so far.

Shipping was probably about 90lbs in a box about 20"x20"x30" and I think he used DHL for shipping. So someone here can probably figure what his average shipping cost might be.

I've been keeping a running average of how much each set of rims is going for on eBay. After about six sets of rims the average is about $130. He's got a new set up for auction every 4 days. So he might have bought a "lot" of rims... but he still bought a LOT of rims!

FrozenFocus · 11-23-2005, 08:55 AM

Quote:

Good deal. I thought mine were good at 151 for the 4 (245 with shipping). Mine were in great shape but Ive wondered where they are getting them from.

This is the only thing holding me back. Having been burned before. b/c if it's too good to be true...

need to click more mturks to buy a set of 17s

**ZX3autoxtasy** · 11-23-2005, 10:39 AM

Why would it hold you back>? You could melt them down into molten metal and make your money back lol.

**o2_designs** · 11-24-2005, 11:38 PM

I saw he has some reposted.

**bigdaddyzx3** · 11-25-2005, 12:48 AM

Quote:

Good deal. I thought mine were good at 151 for the 4 (245 with shipping). Mine were in great shape but Ive wondered where they are getting them from.

This is the only thing holding me back. Having been burned before. b/c if it's too good to be true...

need to click more mturks to buy a set of 17s

I bought mine from this guy quite a long time ago now (almost a year as I recall).
Good experience, and a KILLER price on a really nice set of wheels.
Can't beat the deal.

**bustonit** · 11-25-2005, 11:55 AM

I bought two sets from this guy. Although both sets were packaged loosely, and the wheels had minor belmishes, the price is more than right. The rim has the right specs, and looks great on the Focus.

**K STYLEZ** · 11-25-2005, 04:12 PM

I know another dude who bought these. Rims looked great.

Definitely a hell of a deal.

**Shuzmon** · 11-27-2005, 01:03 PM

I've had set for 2 years, came with some minor scratches (can't really see them when on the car). I even damaged one,(Damn pot hole) and he sent me another for a nominal fee of course. Great rims Imo they look best on the sedan's

**Casper** · 12-04-2005, 09:43 PM

Hmm.... might be a viable alternative to the FRPP 17" white rally wheels i've been looking at. I know a guy selling a new set for $800 CAD.

I could buy these, ship them up here, and have them powedercoated for less than the FRPP wheels! That, and these ones are 4lbs lighter each!

**igor2** · 12-07-2005, 01:35 PM

I love those wheels.

Igor

11-10-2005, 12:04 AM	#1
Oreo DoubleStuf™ Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Walter banned me! What a joke! LOL Posts: 3,993	Just boasting.. (Got\'em today!! update: ST200 rims weigh 20 lbs) I just scored myself a set of those ST200 wheels off ebay for.... read'em & weap... $91 (+$95 shipping of course.) Not a bad price for what I consider to be one of the best looking wheels out there for a focus. Slid my bid in there with only 9 seconds left!! My appologies to Ebay member StainOnYourDress, if anyone knows him/her. My Ebay Score!!

11-10-2005, 12:08 AM	#2
Z63R Official [FJ] Distinguished Advisor Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 20,160	Re: Just boasting.... You will thoroughly inspect those bargain-basement wheels, won't you? CoRngrats on a stealofawheeld33l.

11-10-2005, 12:34 AM	#3
o2_designs Resident Wheel-Whore Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Land of 10,000 Lakes Posts: 9,599	Re: Just boasting.... Damn, you lucky little ________. Now find me a cheap set of Recaros out of a SVT.

11-10-2005, 01:00 AM	#4
Oreo DoubleStuf™ Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Walter banned me! What a joke! LOL Posts: 3,993	Re: Just boasting.... I'll be inspecting them... BUT- you have probably been here long enough to have noticed that I got them from the same guy everyone else has. I haven't heard of any major complaints... YET. Their supposedly OEM wheels- God only knows where this guy is getting them cheap enough to sell them for less than a hundred bucks for a set and still make enough money to make it worth his while. NOW... if I can only find some bargain basement Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3's

11-10-2005, 01:19 AM	#5
02_smurf Moderator Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: With the wemenz: Em or mom Posts: 12,515	Re: Just boasting.... I'm sure another dealer in another country is asking why all the cars that used to have those wheels now have steelies.

11-10-2005, 01:26 AM	#6
bigdaddyzx3 Chicks Dig Rodeo Clowns Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In the garden Posts: 8,496	Re: Just boasting.... I have a set of these wheels from that seller. My experience was just fine. I've developed a theory about where they are coming from... My theory is that somebody got their hands on some OEM casts from Ford. How? I have no idea. But this guy has been selling them for quite some time now. I think there is somebody in SoCal knocking these wheels out for this guy. No, I don't have any basis for this idea. Oh yeah, congrats on the wheels, they rock!

11-10-2005, 02:03 AM	#7
Oreo DoubleStuf™ Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Walter banned me! What a joke! LOL Posts: 3,993	Re: Just boasting.... Yea, I thought that too... like these aren't EXACTLY OEM per-se.... like if he had someone copying them maybe he could do it on the cheap. I would have thought that the cost of manufacturing alone would be well more than $25/wheel though, but what do I know.

11-10-2005, 08:55 PM	#8
o2_designs Resident Wheel-Whore Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Land of 10,000 Lakes Posts: 9,599	Re: Just boasting.... Damn, I would'nt care if they were Ford factory OEM or not, a set of 17s for under 100$ is a steal. I would even buy them for that much, even if I did'nt use them.

11-10-2005, 11:47 PM	#9
Oreo DoubleStuf™ Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Walter banned me! What a joke! LOL Posts: 3,993	Re: Just boasting.... Well, by the time you count shipping you could round it to be about $200. But yea, that's a great price for such a nice looking set of wheels. Funny to think the tires will cost more than double the price of the wheels! Mostly I ask where this guy is getting them so cheap out of curiosity though. There have been a number of people using these rims happily, so I'm totally cool if he's got some guy casting these things in his garage... I'd just like to know so I can laugh about it with my friends.

11-11-2005, 05:12 PM	#10
Notfastenuf TEAM Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Maryland Posts: 178	Re: Just boasting.... Good deal. I thought mine were good at 151 for the 4 (245 with shipping). Mine were in great shape but Ive wondered where they are getting them from.

11-11-2005, 05:27 PM	#11
focuspl99 [FJ] Specialist Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Chicago Posts: 6,268	Re: Just boasting.... i dont care where he gets them from...... hahahaha probably raided some ford wearhouse or hijacked a semi in o-so-classic fast and the furious fashion hahahh

11-17-2005, 04:34 PM	#12
Oreo DoubleStuf™ Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Walter banned me! What a joke! LOL Posts: 3,993	Re: Just boasting.... Got my wheels today! I'll take & post some pics of the very minor imperfections- a couple small chips in the paint, etc. So I weighed them by stepping on my digital bathroom scale (about 5 times each) by myself, and then holding the rim. Comes to about 20 lbs give or take .1 lbs. I was supprized since I was expecting them to be about a pound more. It will be interesting to find out what my stock ST rims weigh sans rubber. I'll have to wait till spring for that though. So just for giggles, anyone have an oppinion on machining some metal from the rims to save some weight? One area I was thinking was on the back side of the spokes there's a cast in section where the offset info is... I could machine a bit of metal out of each one of the spokes in that area and save maybe a pound/wheel. Horrible idea?

11-17-2005, 04:58 PM	#13
David Anderson David Anderson Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Irving, Tx Posts: 5,530	Re: Just boasting.... bad idea, just get smaller tires 215 40 17, or empty your trunk. That would be like wanting to shave some of the control arms down to save 2lbs per corner.

11-22-2005, 07:03 PM	#15
davlafont Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: North Jersey Posts: 1,460	Re: Just boasting.... I think the wheels are probably just "seconds." While $25 sounds insanely cheap, the factory that made them probably sold them to crazypayme21 for $5 each. When the factory bid on the Ford ST200 14-spoke wheel contract, they knew what their scrap rate was likely to be. The price Ford pays for its 1st quality wheels is enough to cover these seconds from a material, labor and overhead standpoint. Depending on who is making them, it might cost more to have them taking up floor space than to just dump them on an eTailer. crazypayme21 took a risk by spending thousands of dollars to buy a lot of seconds (a literal "lot") with the hopes that there are enough buyers interested in them. Seems like it was a good gamble. Any idea what the actual shipping cost was compared to the flat rate you had to pay? I'm guessing that's a source of revenue for crazypayme21 as well, though that might average out if some shipments are actually $100+. Enjoy the wheels. If they were cheapo garage-jobs, you would have read about them here, I'm sure.

11-22-2005, 11:40 PM	#16
Oreo DoubleStuf™ Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Walter banned me! What a joke! LOL Posts: 3,993	Re: Just boasting.... Huh... I think that's the best explanation I've heard so far. Shipping was probably about 90lbs in a box about 20"x20"x30" and I think he used DHL for shipping. So someone here can probably figure what his average shipping cost might be. I've been keeping a running average of how much each set of rims is going for on eBay. After about six sets of rims the average is about $130. He's got a new set up for auction every 4 days. So he might have bought a "lot" of rims... but he still bought a LOT of rims!

11-23-2005, 10:39 AM	#18
ZX3autoxtasy Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: atlanta Posts: 4,617	Re: Just boasting.... Why would it hold you back>? You could melt them down into molten metal and make your money back lol.

11-24-2005, 11:38 PM	#19
o2_designs Resident Wheel-Whore Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Land of 10,000 Lakes Posts: 9,599	Re: Just boasting.... I saw he has some reposted.

11-25-2005, 11:55 AM	#21
bustonit Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The valley Posts: 2,820	Re: Just boasting.... I bought two sets from this guy. Although both sets were packaged loosely, and the wheels had minor belmishes, the price is more than right. The rim has the right specs, and looks great on the Focus.

11-25-2005, 04:12 PM	#22
K STYLEZ Premier Sponsor Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Chi-town, IL Posts: 2,394	Re: Just boasting.... I know another dude who bought these. Rims looked great. Definitely a hell of a deal.

11-27-2005, 01:03 PM	#23
Shuzmon TEAM Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 144	Re: Just boasting.... I've had set for 2 years, came with some minor scratches (can't really see them when on the car). I even damaged one,(Damn pot hole) and he sent me another for a nominal fee of course. Great rims Imo they look best on the sedan's

12-04-2005, 09:43 PM	#24
Casper TEAM Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Port Coquitlam, BC Posts: 204	Re: Just boasting.. (Got'em today!! update: ST200 rims weigh 20 lbs) Hmm.... might be a viable alternative to the FRPP 17" white rally wheels i've been looking at. I know a guy selling a new set for $800 CAD. I could buy these, ship them up here, and have them powedercoated for less than the FRPP wheels! That, and these ones are 4lbs lighter each! __________________ White 2001 ZX3 17" FRPP White Rally Wheels, KW Cup Kit (1.6"), Progress 22mm Rear Sway, Short Ram Intake w/K&N Cone, Steeda 65mm TB, Ported 2k Manifold, FRPP 9mm Wires, MAC UDP, Clear Markers, OBX 4-1 Shorty Header, OBX ORP, FS Flex, 2nd Gen. MBRP Exhaust, FS/SCT Multi Chip My Focus My Photography

12-07-2005, 01:35 PM	#25
igor2 Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Philly, pa Posts: 2,482	Re: Just boasting.. (Got'em today!! update: ST200 rims weigh 20 lbs) I love those wheels. Igor __________________ Mazda3 owner ...

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