stock 16in wheels vs svt brakes - The Ford Focus Forum

**UltegraSTI** · 03-05-2008, 06:04 AM

do they fit. might need to use stock 16s here during a budget crunch and i'm sick of dealin w/the rear drums. just wanted to know. i've heard that stock 15 (zts) wheels fit over the rear discs (the major issue), but naturally dont over the fronts.

thanks for help

R

**Egz** · 03-05-2008, 07:31 AM

I've never heard of any issues with 16s on SVT brakes.

**focusownerskid** · 03-06-2008, 02:12 PM

- Drew

**sleeperlove** · 03-06-2008, 02:52 PM

CSVT wheels will fit as well.

**McSVT** · 03-07-2008, 03:47 AM

Yes they do, there a bit tight. The dowl in the picture is half a inch.

Front

**UltegraSTI** · 03-07-2008, 06:45 AM

hey thx for takin the time on that man, really appreciate it.

R

**blueroach** · 06-26-2009, 05:43 PM

Pulling this from the dead since this has a useful picture....

With the SVT brakes and stock 16" rim, does anyone track this setup? The half inch gap concerns me with 30 minute track sessions in 100+ degree weather down here would it create excessive fading and wear and lower effectiveness?

It will probably a good 6 months until I could pony up for 17s...

**MichaelXi** · 06-26-2009, 07:01 PM

I don't believe it would cause significantly more heat buildup, BUT, if there is LOTS of HEAVY Braking on the course, you want as little heat as possible. I have screwed up some front wheel bearings at the track, and when I opened them up to replace them, it was obvious that the bearing grease had been ruined. I had had a TINY Bit of fade for about a quarter lap at VIR Full, and I was on Hawk HP+ pads at that particular session. Other than that brief moment, the brakes were great all weekend. (Standard brakes... Non-SVT)
It seemed that the wheel bearings took as much heat abuse as the brakes.
Granted, there is an issue with the OEM wheel bearing nuts which can contribute to bearing failure due to heavy track use, but I feel fairly confident that my first front wheel bearing failure was ALSO due to heat. The next time I went to the track, I had home-made cooling ducts run from behind the lower grille back to the rotor area. Not the best design, but it was all I could do on a budget. On that weekend I had Carbotech XP-8 (or XP-9? I forget) pads, and I had no problems whatsoever.

**Phacade** · 06-26-2009, 09:00 PM

16's on the SVTF? Looks and rides great!

**age** · 06-27-2009, 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by MichaelXi

The next time I went to the track, I had home-made cooling ducts run from behind the lower grille back to the rotor area. Not the best design, but it was all I could do on a budget.

hi mate. im thinking of doing the same thing but there isnt much room due to a bunch of radiator and other hoses in the way on the right hand side. this might be because we get the euro model in australia so the bumper design might be a bit different. anyway, any chance you could explain what you did or take some photos so i can get a few ideas? thanks alot.

**McSVT** · 06-27-2009, 09:58 PM

One dissadvantage of running stock Focus wheels like I am is that they are only 6" wide. So if you want to run them on track you are limited in tire width. You are better off looking for aftermarket 16" wheels.

**venomrogue** · 06-29-2009, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phacade

16's on the SVTF? Looks and rides great!

I agree!!

**ProjectSedan** · 06-29-2009, 08:12 PM

brian, you show off

**thenorm** · 07-02-2009, 01:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by age

hi mate. im thinking of doing the same thing but there isnt much room due to a bunch of radiator and other hoses in the way on the right hand side. this might be because we get the euro model in australia so the bumper design might be a bit different. anyway, any chance you could explain what you did or take some photos so i can get a few ideas? thanks alot.

you can also use the porsche cooling fins. I plan to if/when i take back to the track.
http://forums.focaljet.com/road-rall...ing-ducts.html

**JEEPers** · 07-02-2009, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by venomrogue

I agree!!

What 16" wheels are those on your SVT?

**the gob** · 07-02-2009, 11:50 AM

dare i ask but what about a 16x8 or 8.5 with the appropriate respective offsets??? i wanna put more rubber down without bulging over my lip like on the stock 17x7s i wanna have 225s that flush right up to the fender...

**MachFive** · 07-02-2009, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the gob

dare i ask but what about a 16x8 or 8.5 with the appropriate respective offsets??? i wanna put more rubber down without bulging over my lip like on the stock 17x7s i wanna have 225s that flush right up to the fender...

I wouldn't think you'd have any clearance issues as long as you get the right offset on the wheel. But finding tires in a 225/XX/16 might be a headache depending on what spec you're looking for.

**sleeperlove** · 07-03-2009, 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the gob

dare i ask but what about a 16x8 or 8.5 with the appropriate respective offsets??? i wanna put more rubber down without bulging over my lip like on the stock 17x7s i wanna have 225s that flush right up to the fender...

Slightly different situation but on track I run 15x7.5 with an effective 30mm offset in the front and the tires poke out of the fenders just a touch. Enough that there would be serious problems with a soft suspension.

you could get away with 16x8 probably if you could find them but fender rolling and camber would likely be necessary.
Edit: Here is a picture of my setup from the front

Also they, clear my svt clampers

**JEEPers** · 07-05-2009, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleeperlove

Slightly different situation but on track I run 15x7.5 with an effective 30mm offset in the front and the tires poke out of the fenders just a touch. Enough that there would be serious problems with a soft suspension.

you could get away with 16x8 probably if you could find them but fender rolling and camber would likely be necessary.
Edit: Here is a picture of my setup from the front

Also they, clear my svt clampers

what 15" wheels do you run?

03-05-2008, 06:04 AM	#1 (permalink)
UltegraSTI [FJ] Specialist Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: ... Posts: 7,217	stock 16in wheels vs svt brakes do they fit. might need to use stock 16s here during a budget crunch and i'm sick of dealin w/the rear drums. just wanted to know. i've heard that stock 15 (zts) wheels fit over the rear discs (the major issue), but naturally dont over the fronts. thanks for help R __________________ it amazes how long i've been here...

03-05-2008, 07:31 AM	#2 (permalink)
Egz Moderwhiner Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Tappahannock, VA Posts: 20,061	Re: stock 16in wheels vs svt brakes I've never heard of any issues with 16s on SVT brakes.

03-06-2008, 02:12 PM	#3 (permalink)
focusownerskid Administrator Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Woodhaven, MI Posts: 17,762	Re: stock 16in wheels vs svt brakes - Drew __________________ 2.3 L1QUID ZX3 *<-For Sale, PM ME!!!* ///type dRew"...we roll tight whips.... EVAREYDAY!"

03-06-2008, 02:52 PM	#4 (permalink)
sleeperlove You wouldn't like me when I'm angry. Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Apex hunting Posts: 9,823	Re: stock 16in wheels vs svt brakes CSVT wheels will fit as well. __________________ “Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.” - Bruce Lee

03-07-2008, 03:47 AM	#5 (permalink)
McSVT Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Federal Way, WA Posts: 1,795	Re: stock 16in wheels vs svt brakes Yes they do, there a bit tight. The dowl in the picture is half a inch. Front __________________ Anyone can go fast in a straight line. 2002 SVT Pitch Black #3633 ~ Built 7/2002 Tuned by Focus Sport/SCT ~ 17x7 White OZ Superleggera with BFG KDW 2's, street ~ 17x7 Dark Argent OZ Superleggera with Falken RT-615, track ~ Steeda Short Throw Shifter ~ VF-Engineering Rear Engine Mount ~ H&R Coilovers ~ Graphics by WebXtremes

03-07-2008, 06:45 AM	#6 (permalink)
UltegraSTI [FJ] Specialist Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: ... Posts: 7,217	Re: stock 16in wheels vs svt brakes hey thx for takin the time on that man, really appreciate it. R __________________ it amazes how long i've been here...

06-26-2009, 05:43 PM	#7 (permalink)
blueroach TEAM Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: houston and bryan, tx Posts: 259	Re: stock 16in wheels vs svt brakes Pulling this from the dead since this has a useful picture.... With the SVT brakes and stock 16" rim, does anyone track this setup? The half inch gap concerns me with 30 minute track sessions in 100+ degree weather down here would it create excessive fading and wear and lower effectiveness? It will probably a good 6 months until I could pony up for 17s...

06-26-2009, 07:01 PM	#8 (permalink)
MichaelXi Michael's Eye... Get It? Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Venus Via Knoxville, TN Posts: 25,327	Re: stock 16in wheels vs svt brakes I don't believe it would cause significantly more heat buildup, BUT, if there is LOTS of HEAVY Braking on the course, you want as little heat as possible. I have screwed up some front wheel bearings at the track, and when I opened them up to replace them, it was obvious that the bearing grease had been ruined. I had had a TINY Bit of fade for about a quarter lap at VIR Full, and I was on Hawk HP+ pads at that particular session. Other than that brief moment, the brakes were great all weekend. (Standard brakes... Non-SVT) It seemed that the wheel bearings took as much heat abuse as the brakes. Granted, there is an issue with the OEM wheel bearing nuts which can contribute to bearing failure due to heavy track use, but I feel fairly confident that my first front wheel bearing failure was ALSO due to heat. The next time I went to the track, I had home-made cooling ducts run from behind the lower grille back to the rotor area. Not the best design, but it was all I could do on a budget. On that weekend I had Carbotech XP-8 (or XP-9? I forget) pads, and I had no problems whatsoever.

06-26-2009, 09:00 PM	#9 (permalink)
Phacade Team Sonic Racing Pit Crew Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 2,217	Re: stock 16in wheels vs svt brakes 16's on the SVTF? Looks and rides great! __________________ 2003 EAP SVT "Attila" - ST170 Headlights ■ Hofele grill ■ SAP rear defuser ■ Clear corners ■ Taylor 8.2mm plug wires ■ Saleen/Eibach suspension kit ■ Focus Central short shift ■ Steel Grey Rota Grids ■ Massive front strut bar ■ Euro rear wiper ■ Shorty antenna ■ SVT-logo Redline carpet kit ■ Powdercoated valve cover ■ Billet aluminum fuel door ■ K&N drop-in filter ■ Debadged ■ Euro HVAC ■ ...and then of course me (being a narcissist, I consider this to be the most important mod). ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬

06-27-2009, 09:58 PM	#11 (permalink)
McSVT Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Federal Way, WA Posts: 1,795	Re: stock 16in wheels vs svt brakes One dissadvantage of running stock Focus wheels like I am is that they are only 6" wide. So if you want to run them on track you are limited in tire width. You are better off looking for aftermarket 16" wheels. __________________ Anyone can go fast in a straight line. 2002 SVT Pitch Black #3633 ~ Built 7/2002 Tuned by Focus Sport/SCT ~ 17x7 White OZ Superleggera with BFG KDW 2's, street ~ 17x7 Dark Argent OZ Superleggera with Falken RT-615, track ~ Steeda Short Throw Shifter ~ VF-Engineering Rear Engine Mount ~ H&R Coilovers ~ Graphics by WebXtremes

06-29-2009, 08:12 PM	#13 (permalink)
ProjectSedan TEAM Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: USAF: Tinker AFB Posts: 605	Re: stock 16in wheels vs svt brakes brian, you show off __________________ Gone: 2001 Focus LX with a few upgrades 2002 Focus ZX3 w/ custom turbo: parts from Massive and Top Speed, built and tunned by SkidMark Racing

07-02-2009, 11:50 AM	#16 (permalink)
the gob TEAM Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Chaos in Tejas \m/ Posts: 350	Re: stock 16in wheels vs svt brakes dare i ask but what about a 16x8 or 8.5 with the appropriate respective offsets??? i wanna put more rubber down without bulging over my lip like on the stock 17x7s i wanna have 225s that flush right up to the fender... __________________ Quote: Originally Posted by Snake Eyes XIII So the arrow symbolizes my car spinning out of control?:lol: :lol: :lol: No, Not Spinning, BARREL ROLLING!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

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