FJ Exhaust Shoot-Out Results! - The Ford Focus Forum

**new03zx3** · 01-14-2004, 12:18 AM

looks like the verdict is in folks!!! finally... borla gives best hp gains and focus sport gives best torque...not much of a surprise to me... u pay for the best stuff... i can tell you one thing... im goin with focus sport stuff the whole way... 4-1 race header,flex, and stealth exhaust... that review gave me the backing i needed to make my decision.. thanks alot wrcfan !

**focaljet-1** · 01-14-2004, 12:18 AM

FJ Exhaust Shoot-Out

**OmniFocus** · 01-14-2004, 12:22 AM

Whew... Mine didn't do too bad.

**focaljet-1** · 01-14-2004, 12:23 AM

BTW, you can click on the dyno icons to see each dyno in a large size.

**ZX3 Canuck** · 01-14-2004, 12:24 AM

Borla

Reaffirms that their products are top notch.

**Jibberish18** · 01-14-2004, 12:27 AM

Wow a big thanks from me to you guys for the results. Awesome info. Vibrant did very good! Props to Focussport for awesome gains and quality. Shame on RM Racing for no gains and expensive pricing! All in all I think this is gonna open a can of worms for months to come.

**BUR_ZX3** · 01-14-2004, 12:32 AM

no surprise to me.... FocusSport edges Borla on the quality... and has the .3 tq advantage, and a .2hp deficit... I'd suggest minor tuning of the engine could flip/flop those numbers around....

I've always known that those two systems are the best, and I'm proud to have a FocusSport system on my ride!

Like I said in the other thread... my gains were more... but I had a couple bolt ons at that point.

Big props to all that kicked in the systems... boo to those that didn't.... and well HKS... I know the issues that that brings, and I can't blame anyone there.

**focaljet-1** · 01-14-2004, 12:33 AM

Well to be fair to RM, they took a chance. The system they sent us was basically a prototype and they weren't even sure how it would do.

My last email from them sounds like they may not proceed with production.

**belacyrf** · 01-14-2004, 12:33 AM

Ron.. you didn't list any of the piping diameters on there did you? I didn't see them.

Were there any exhausts that weren't 2.25"? (I think the HKS is actually smaller than 2.25)

**focaljet-1** · 01-14-2004, 12:36 AM

Quote:

Ron.. you didn't list any of the piping diameters on there did you? I didn't see them.

Were there any exhausts that weren't 2.25"? (I think the HKS is actually smaller than 2.25)

Good question. I thought I had the installer measure them. I have a LOT of pages of notes. If I have that info I will append to the stats.

**Phillip** · 01-14-2004, 12:40 AM

Not sure if a.5 hp and .5 ft lb of torque spread (with the top units)is a "can of worms" but it's good to see "the best" are within 1 hp of each other. For the most part, it (still) comes down to looks, sound and price.

**OGFocus99** · 01-14-2004, 12:47 AM

Look at the low sound levels the HKS pipe makes,and it is right there with the ear buster Borla and the Focus Sport.All with a 2.165 diameter pipe. They also make a silencer that will make it 3db quieter (might lower h.p. and increase torque).I guess you know what I have.

**belacyrf** · 01-14-2004, 12:47 AM

Awesome!!
Great information their Ron!

Well Done

**soybean311** · 01-14-2004, 12:57 AM

It's awesome Ron. Now I have a good idea on which exhaust would perform better for me in the future.

Top Choices: Borla, Focus Sport, Magnaflow

Twilight02ZX3 · 01-14-2004, 01:31 AM

Go FS!

**zetecwagon** · 01-14-2004, 01:34 AM

Big help, this is great!!

Thanks Ron and all who helped!!

Are you going to add sound clips?

**focaljet-1** · 01-14-2004, 01:35 AM

Sorry, we were not able to get sound clips unfortunately.

**FordFocusDanielSan** · 01-14-2004, 02:57 AM

my MBRP didnt do too bad

and its official, its the loudest system out there

**Russell** · 01-14-2004, 03:46 AM

Great job!

That is some great information.

**RallyRide** · 01-14-2004, 03:50 AM

Go MBRP woot!

**01yellazx3** · 01-14-2004, 04:39 AM

yay magnaflow!!!

**Phillip** · 01-14-2004, 05:25 AM

The bottom line spreads:

2.7 horsepower... Borla win
2.2 foot pounds of torque...FocusSport win
10 db spread at idle... HKS
15 db at 3k ...HKS
13 db at 4k ...HKS

3 out of 5 ain't bad.

I'm pleased to see HKS does as well while at the same time keeping decibel levels down for us "older" folks.

Even with the SVT header (and no cat) it's not very loud.

**Fisch** · 01-14-2004, 06:22 AM

Quote:

The bottom line spreads:

2.7 horsepower... Borla win
2.2 foot pounds of torque...FocusSport win
10 db spread at idle... HKS
15 db at 3k ...HKS
13 db at 4k ...HKS

3 out of 5 ain't bad.

I'm pleased to see HKS does as well while at the same time keeping decibel levels down for us "older" folks.

Even with the SVT header (and no cat) it's not very loud.

Quiet is good... Nicely done guys!!!

**FordFocusDanielSan** · 01-14-2004, 06:40 AM

Quote:

The bottom line spreads:

2.7 horsepower... Borla win
2.2 foot pounds of torque...FocusSport win
10 db spread at idle... HKS
15 db at 3k ...HKS
13 db at 4k ...HKS

3 out of 5 ain't bad.

I'm pleased to see HKS does as well while at the same time keeping decibel levels down for us "older" folks.

Even with the SVT header (and no cat) it's not very loud.

Quiet is good... Nicely done guys!!!

ahh quiet is not good!! as a former 5.0 driver(87 cut supreme not mustang

) w/ dual 40 series flowmasters, loud is good

**speedy_zx3** · 01-14-2004, 07:15 AM

I've been trying to cut-down on my swearing as of late, but all I have to say is this:

I can't [censored] believe those [censored] at thermal wouldn't let you dyno they're exhaust! I mean what the [censored]?! we put a lot of [censored] time and effort into our cars, and TR&D is one of the big-name manufacturers for aftermarket components! the only reason I really bought the thermal was because I heard it had a very low sound and nice gains. I'm still satisfied with my choice, but I find it VERY stupid for them not to participate.

edit: damn I was so mad when I read that that I forgot to thank all that were involved in this. I think I just may have to send the link to TR&D and let them know that while their product is impressive, they don't have a confident customer... and that their future profits may be at stake because of their lack of participation.

01-14-2004, 12:18 AM	#1 (permalink)
new03zx3 Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Clifton Park, NY Posts: 1,124	FJ Exhaust Shoot-Out Results! looks like the verdict is in folks!!! finally... borla gives best hp gains and focus sport gives best torque...not much of a surprise to me... u pay for the best stuff... i can tell you one thing... im goin with focus sport stuff the whole way... 4-1 race header,flex, and stealth exhaust... that review gave me the backing i needed to make my decision.. thanks alot wrcfan !

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01-14-2004, 12:23 AM	#4 (permalink)
focaljet-1 Small Car Czar Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: On the RotorMedia helipad Posts: 30,086	Re: FJ Exhaust Shoot-Out Results! BTW, you can click on the dyno icons to see each dyno in a large size.

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ZX3 Canuck Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 3,178	Re: FJ Exhaust Shoot-Out Results! Borla Reaffirms that their products are top notch.

01-14-2004, 12:27 AM	#6 (permalink)
Jibberish18 I Now Post Stupid **** Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Chicago Posts: 4,620	Re: FJ Exhaust Shoot-Out Results! Wow a big thanks from me to you guys for the results. Awesome info. Vibrant did very good! Props to Focussport for awesome gains and quality. Shame on RM Racing for no gains and expensive pricing! All in all I think this is gonna open a can of worms for months to come.

01-14-2004, 12:32 AM	#7 (permalink)
BUR_ZX3 [FJ] Addict Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Little Saint Clara, Isle of Queen Califia Posts: 36,454	Re: FJ Exhaust Shoot-Out Results! no surprise to me.... FocusSport edges Borla on the quality... and has the .3 tq advantage, and a .2hp deficit... I'd suggest minor tuning of the engine could flip/flop those numbers around.... I've always known that those two systems are the best, and I'm proud to have a FocusSport system on my ride! Like I said in the other thread... my gains were more... but I had a couple bolt ons at that point. Big props to all that kicked in the systems... boo to those that didn't.... and well HKS... I know the issues that that brings, and I can't blame anyone there.

01-14-2004, 12:33 AM	#8 (permalink)
focaljet-1 Small Car Czar Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: On the RotorMedia helipad Posts: 30,086	Re: FJ Exhaust Shoot-Out Results! Well to be fair to RM, they took a chance. The system they sent us was basically a prototype and they weren't even sure how it would do. My last email from them sounds like they may not proceed with production.

01-14-2004, 12:33 AM	#9 (permalink)
belacyrf [FJ] Addict Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Where my home is Posts: 17,524	Re: FJ Exhaust Shoot-Out Results! Ron.. you didn't list any of the piping diameters on there did you? I didn't see them. Were there any exhausts that weren't 2.25"? (I think the HKS is actually smaller than 2.25)

01-14-2004, 12:40 AM	#11 (permalink)
Phillip [FJ] Specialist Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Oregon Posts: 9,237	Re: FJ Exhaust Shoot-Out Results! Not sure if a.5 hp and .5 ft lb of torque spread (with the top units)is a "can of worms" but it's good to see "the best" are within 1 hp of each other. For the most part, it (still) comes down to looks, sound and price.

01-14-2004, 12:47 AM	#12 (permalink)
OGFocus99 Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: San Fran Posts: 2,034	Re: FJ Exhaust Shoot-Out Results! Look at the low sound levels the HKS pipe makes,and it is right there with the ear buster Borla and the Focus Sport.All with a 2.165 diameter pipe. They also make a silencer that will make it 3db quieter (might lower h.p. and increase torque).I guess you know what I have.

01-14-2004, 12:47 AM	#13 (permalink)
belacyrf [FJ] Addict Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Where my home is Posts: 17,524	Re: FJ Exhaust Shoot-Out Results! Awesome!! Great information their Ron! Well Done

01-14-2004, 12:57 AM	#14 (permalink)
soybean311 Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Tualatin, Oregon Posts: 3,188	Re: FJ Exhaust Shoot-Out Results! It's awesome Ron. Now I have a good idea on which exhaust would perform better for me in the future. Top Choices: Borla, Focus Sport, Magnaflow

01-14-2004, 01:31 AM	#15 (permalink)
Twilight02ZX3 Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Littleton, CO Posts: 2,355	Re: FJ Exhaust Shoot-Out Results! Go FS!

01-14-2004, 01:34 AM	#16 (permalink)
zetecwagon Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Cincinnati Ohio USA Posts: 1,212	Re: FJ Exhaust Shoot-Out Results! Big help, this is great!! Thanks Ron and all who helped!! Are you going to add sound clips?

01-14-2004, 01:35 AM	#17 (permalink)
focaljet-1 Small Car Czar Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: On the RotorMedia helipad Posts: 30,086	Re: FJ Exhaust Shoot-Out Results! Sorry, we were not able to get sound clips unfortunately.

01-14-2004, 02:57 AM	#18 (permalink)
FordFocusDanielSan Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: One Rock In Da Pacific Sea Posts: 2,994	Re: FJ Exhaust Shoot-Out Results! my MBRP didnt do too bad and its official, its the loudest system out there

01-14-2004, 03:46 AM	#19 (permalink)
Russell Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Okinawa Japan Posts: 1,155	Re: FJ Exhaust Shoot-Out Results! Great job! That is some great information.

01-14-2004, 03:50 AM	#20 (permalink)
RallyRide Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Silverdale, WA Posts: 1,424	Re: FJ Exhaust Shoot-Out Results! Go MBRP woot!

01-14-2004, 04:39 AM	#21 (permalink)
01yellazx3 Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 2,201	Re: FJ Exhaust Shoot-Out Results! yay magnaflow!!!

01-14-2004, 05:25 AM	#22 (permalink)
Phillip [FJ] Specialist Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Oregon Posts: 9,237	Re: FJ Exhaust Shoot-Out Results! The bottom line spreads: 2.7 horsepower... Borla win 2.2 foot pounds of torque...FocusSport win 10 db spread at idle... HKS 15 db at 3k ...HKS 13 db at 4k ...HKS 3 out of 5 ain't bad. I'm pleased to see HKS does as well while at the same time keeping decibel levels down for us "older" folks. Even with the SVT header (and no cat) it's not very loud.

01-14-2004, 07:15 AM	#25 (permalink)
speedy_zx3 Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: (Trev) Sacramento, California Posts: 4,101	Re: FJ Exhaust Shoot-Out Results! I've been trying to cut-down on my swearing as of late, but all I have to say is this: I can't [censored] believe those [censored] at thermal wouldn't let you dyno they're exhaust! I mean what the [censored]?! we put a lot of [censored] time and effort into our cars, and TR&D is one of the big-name manufacturers for aftermarket components! the only reason I really bought the thermal was because I heard it had a very low sound and nice gains. I'm still satisfied with my choice, but I find it VERY stupid for them not to participate. edit: damn I was so mad when I read that that I forgot to thank all that were involved in this. I think I just may have to send the link to TR&D and let them know that while their product is impressive, they don't have a confident customer... and that their future profits may be at stake because of their lack of participation.

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