There is hope for N/A Zetec's - The Ford Focus Forum

**Random** · 10-04-2008, 10:47 PM

This could be a re-post but it cant hurt.

I was doing some research for some things and ran across some beautiful engines;

There is a lot of good write ups about the zetec engine, for anyone that did't know. Just do some google searchs!

A lot of cool stuff here, take a look; www.raceline.co.uk

Cheers,

Kyle

**guitarseth** · 10-05-2008, 04:53 AM

Yeah, its all out there, unfortunately, most of those items are designed for a RWD application and won't fit a Focus without extensive firewall modification.

**Random** · 10-05-2008, 02:49 PM

Little confused... All the internals will work, throttle bodies, pretty much everything but the trans and mounting.

**Cameroon** · 10-05-2008, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Random

Little confused... All the internals will work, throttle bodies, pretty much everything but the trans and mounting.

Are you sure? Thats what the whole "serious firewall mods" is about.

The last pic, the red engine, those TB's would just maybe fit.

The other 2 the ends of the trumpets would be someplace under the dashboard.

**slverfocus13** · 10-05-2008, 05:50 PM

wow thanks for the link...i am now more willing to do my NA zetec build more than before...

**Johnny_P** · 10-05-2008, 05:53 PM

those look like caterham zetec engines... Won't fit without mods to your firewall

**G-forces** · 10-05-2008, 08:03 PM

Those are beautiful engines! I always like seeing velocity stack arrangements. Serious high end power potential. Thanks, even if they are just too much work to make them fit our cars.

**alucardsvt** · 10-05-2008, 08:32 PM

wow

**DFF** · 10-05-2008, 09:06 PM

Good stuff on that site

**ZX2guy19** · 10-06-2008, 02:02 AM

Welcome to European Zetec :]

**Johnny_P** · 10-06-2008, 04:57 PM

^ none of those look European to me. Europe gets slightly different versions than we do, most with VCT and other stuff....

Anyone in the states can make their zetec look like that with the right amount of money...

**sportscarfan1989** · 10-06-2008, 05:03 PM

that is one of the grate benefits to a duratec

not downing the zetec my cuz has one and to me even tho its slower than my duratec it feels more lively

**silveib** · 10-09-2008, 08:09 AM

like the others said good luck getting that to fit.... the NA zetec dies again...

**Random** · 10-09-2008, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silveib

... the NA zetec dies again...

Comments like yours are ill informed and ignorant. Please take them somewhere else.

**sleeping_focus** · 10-15-2008, 03:26 PM

Those look ganster!! probably getting close to the 200hp mark. This is how my 4ag will look after I get some fuel mangment

**Funktacular** · 10-15-2008, 05:25 PM

High power NA zetecs have always been doable. However, for the money involved, unless its is primarily a track car, it isn' worth it. Building a 200 whp NA zetec is not as hard as a lot of people seem to think (good mani, 11:1+ and some gnarly cams) it just isn't practical. The power will be wicked high rpm for a zetec (think 7600+) and you'd need a fully built engine to handle the compression and high rpm (big $$) . As for the ITB's....you can make'm fit without the velocity stacks. Most people chose to boost, because for around $3.5-4k you can make 200+ whp without any other mods.

**Random** · 10-15-2008, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Funktacular

High power NA zetecs have always been doable. However, for the money involved, unless its is primarily a track car, it isn' worth it. Building a 200 whp NA zetec is not as hard as a lot of people seem to think (good mani, 11:1+ and some gnarly cams) it just isn't practical. The power will be wicked high rpm for a zetec (think 7600+) and you'd need a fully built engine to handle the compression and high rpm (big $$) . As for the ITB's....you can make'm fit without the velocity stacks. Most people chose to boost, because for around $3.5-4k you can make 200+ whp without any other mods.

Man I feel like I've heard this a thousand times...

**guitarseth** · 10-16-2008, 06:17 AM

I wonder if it would be possible to tilt the engine a few degrees forward and gain some rear firewall clearance for the ITBs? Those motor mounts would probably be expensive...

**silveib** · 10-16-2008, 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Random

Comments like yours are ill informed and ignorant. Please take them somewhere else.

ah get off your high horse, it was a joke. You can make decent power NA on a zetec but its just not practical. When you make a 250 whp NA zetec that can be daily driven then i will admit defeat until then........ i dont see a point.

**FORDSVTPARTS** · 10-16-2008, 09:33 AM

Why is everyone so afraid of modifying the firewall?

Cut a hole, build an airbox and pull air from the cowl area or someplace else.

People have been cutting up these cars for years, I don't see any reason to stop at the firewall.

I saw an old Mini at the track a few years ago with a supercharger on it and the way it was mounted the guy had cut a hole in the firewall and there was a big honking Weber carb coming through the dashboard.

Granted, the way he had it set up a backfire would burn all the hair off the side of your head.

The only thing stopping someone from installing a setup like that in a Focus is lack of imagination.

**slverfocus13** · 10-16-2008, 11:10 AM

^^thank you....

**BUR_ZX3** · 10-16-2008, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FORDSVTPARTS

Why is everyone so afraid of modifying the firewall?

The only thing stopping someone from installing a setup like that in a Focus is lack of imagination.

OR...

Get some custom mounts... clock the engine a little bit and booyah.

Like you said. Lack of imagination... and money.

**Random** · 10-16-2008, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slverfocus13

^^thank you....

Who's car is this? More photos? Thanks for posting also slverfocus13

-Kyle

**slverfocus13** · 10-16-2008, 02:08 PM

not sure who's car this is but here are the pics..
http://forums.focaljet.com/team-pit-...lots-pics.html

**silveib** · 10-20-2008, 11:36 AM

that car is totally badass...... but still you can see even with itb's he only made 200 whp, which is incredible for a NA 2.0L. That thing is probably super fast espcially since its barely over 2100lbs

10-05-2008, 04:53 AM	#2 (permalink)
guitarseth Look under the curve... UNDER THE CURVE! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Wooster, OH Posts: 3,582	Re: There is hope for N/A Zetec's Yeah, its all out there, unfortunately, most of those items are designed for a RWD application and won't fit a Focus without extensive firewall modification. __________________ French Blue 2003 ZX3 Power Premium MTX Mild Naturally Aspirated build - Modded for driving enjoyment My Car

10-05-2008, 05:50 PM	#5 (permalink)
slverfocus13 Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Palm Coast, FL Posts: 2,162	Re: There is hope for N/A Zetec's wow thanks for the link...i am now more willing to do my NA zetec build more than before... __________________ 2002 CD Silver ZX3(soon to be its a secret but its got BOOST) Emissions...whats that?

10-05-2008, 05:53 PM	#6 (permalink)
Johnny_P [FJ] Specialist Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Philly, PA Posts: 5,101	Re: There is hope for N/A Zetec's those look like caterham zetec engines... Won't fit without mods to your firewall __________________ Do you..... Focus?

10-05-2008, 08:03 PM	#7 (permalink)
G-forces Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 2,024	Re: There is hope for N/A Zetec's Those are beautiful engines! I always like seeing velocity stack arrangements. Serious high end power potential. Thanks, even if they are just too much work to make them fit our cars. __________________ Stockholm Getaway: Escort Cosworth vs Supra... on YouTube. Don't try this at home. (For some reason I thought this was a Focus the first time I saw it... now I have to find a new Signature.)

10-05-2008, 08:32 PM	#8 (permalink)
alucardsvt TEAM Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 602	Re: There is hope for N/A Zetec's wow

10-05-2008, 09:06 PM	#9 (permalink)
DFF TEAM Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: On a dark desert highway Posts: 584	Re: There is hope for N/A Zetec's Good stuff on that site __________________ -[ 2001 C9 ZX3 ]- Slowly but surely, shes getting there.

10-06-2008, 02:02 AM	#10 (permalink)
ZX2guy19 HUGE Cheapskate - Still hasn't repaid my $13.00. He may have used it at the Dollar Store. Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 447	Re: There is hope for N/A Zetec's Welcome to European Zetec :]

10-06-2008, 04:57 PM	#11 (permalink)
Johnny_P [FJ] Specialist Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Philly, PA Posts: 5,101	Re: There is hope for N/A Zetec's ^ none of those look European to me. Europe gets slightly different versions than we do, most with VCT and other stuff.... Anyone in the states can make their zetec look like that with the right amount of money... __________________ Do you..... Focus?

10-06-2008, 05:03 PM	#12 (permalink)
sportscarfan1989 TEAM Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 277	Re: There is hope for N/A Zetec's that is one of the grate benefits to a duratec not downing the zetec my cuz has one and to me even tho its slower than my duratec it feels more lively

10-09-2008, 08:09 AM	#13 (permalink)
silveib TEAM Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 151	Re: There is hope for N/A Zetec's like the others said good luck getting that to fit.... the NA zetec dies again...

10-15-2008, 03:26 PM	#15 (permalink)
sleeping_focus Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Santa Maria,CA Posts: 1,177	Re: There is hope for N/A Zetec's Those look ganster!! probably getting close to the 200hp mark. This is how my 4ag will look after I get some fuel mangment __________________ Full bolt on zetec with boogie suspension.1 OF 4 Central Coast members.

10-15-2008, 05:25 PM	#16 (permalink)
Funktacular TEAM Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Jacksonville, NC Posts: 237	Re: There is hope for N/A Zetec's High power NA zetecs have always been doable. However, for the money involved, unless its is primarily a track car, it isn' worth it. Building a 200 whp NA zetec is not as hard as a lot of people seem to think (good mani, 11:1+ and some gnarly cams) it just isn't practical. The power will be wicked high rpm for a zetec (think 7600+) and you'd need a fully built engine to handle the compression and high rpm (big $$) . As for the ITB's....you can make'm fit without the velocity stacks. Most people chose to boost, because for around $3.5-4k you can make 200+ whp without any other mods. __________________ 01 ZX3. Ported TB, SVT header into RT cat to 2 1/4" OBX, VF Eng. top mounts, CFM lower mount, AEM CAI, CFM STS, Massive/FS strut bars, Massive UDP's, MSD coild w/Massive msx 80's, Centerforce Clutch, FS XCAL2, Comp Stg 3's not dialed in correctly cause I fail at basic math i guess?

10-16-2008, 06:17 AM	#18 (permalink)
guitarseth Look under the curve... UNDER THE CURVE! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Wooster, OH Posts: 3,582	Re: There is hope for N/A Zetec's I wonder if it would be possible to tilt the engine a few degrees forward and gain some rear firewall clearance for the ITBs? Those motor mounts would probably be expensive... __________________ French Blue 2003 ZX3 Power Premium MTX Mild Naturally Aspirated build - Modded for driving enjoyment My Car

10-16-2008, 09:33 AM	#20 (permalink)
FORDSVTPARTS Premier Sponsor Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Minnesota Posts: 8,235	Re: There is hope for N/A Zetec's Why is everyone so afraid of modifying the firewall? Cut a hole, build an airbox and pull air from the cowl area or someplace else. People have been cutting up these cars for years, I don't see any reason to stop at the firewall. I saw an old Mini at the track a few years ago with a supercharger on it and the way it was mounted the guy had cut a hole in the firewall and there was a big honking Weber carb coming through the dashboard. Granted, the way he had it set up a backfire would burn all the hair off the side of your head. The only thing stopping someone from installing a setup like that in a Focus is lack of imagination. __________________ To order from me just call 1-800-328-9552 and ask for Steve or use one of the methods below. Now accepting online orders here http://www.tousleyfordparts.com You can also find us here http://forums.focaljet.com/tousley-ford/ 2002 Silver SVT #2952 , custom CAI , Stage 2 throttle body, VF rear mount, FRPP 9mm wires, EAP/MACH HID's, Borla exhaust, K-W springs, FRPP UDP, Screamin Demon coil, Tuned by Mike at Unique Tuning in S.C. Last edited by FORDSVTPARTS; 10-16-2008 at 11:23 AM.

10-16-2008, 11:10 AM	#21 (permalink)
slverfocus13 Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Palm Coast, FL Posts: 2,162	Re: There is hope for N/A Zetec's ^^thank you.... __________________ 2002 CD Silver ZX3(soon to be its a secret but its got BOOST) Emissions...whats that?

10-16-2008, 02:08 PM	#24 (permalink)
slverfocus13 Senior TEAM Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Palm Coast, FL Posts: 2,162	Re: There is hope for N/A Zetec's not sure who's car this is but here are the pics.. http://forums.focaljet.com/team-pit-...lots-pics.html __________________ 2002 CD Silver ZX3(soon to be its a secret but its got BOOST) Emissions...whats that?

10-20-2008, 11:36 AM	#25 (permalink)
silveib TEAM Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 151	Re: There is hope for N/A Zetec's that car is totally badass...... but still you can see even with itb's he only made 200 whp, which is incredible for a NA 2.0L. That thing is probably super fast espcially since its barely over 2100lbs

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