Fleabay Header?

[evanjfrancis]

I know, i know, stay away from ebay, but I've been looking around for a header, n found this. I figured there wouldnt be any harm in asking, so what would you guys think about this? It's about $250 shipped. I know "get what you pay for" but still, thought I'd ask if anybody has it or what you guys think.

**EDIT** I realized that the title is misleading. its 250 for the whole package

[racefocus]

its the focussport knock of from ssautochrome! ive heard bad things but thinking about it for myself! but u can get it cheeper than that on ebay! search around

[fasfocus00]

okay I'll probably be you best help on this particular one b/c I did the original test fitting for this setup. that extra little pipe does nothing and doesn't com in the kit. I have not had any issues with mine other than it being able to bolt up the the factory header mount on the bottom of the motor. That shiny finish only last about 2 weeks. all the bolts that it comes with didn't fit, I just reused the factory bolts for the cylinder heads and I bought my own bolts for the part that connects to the flex pipe. it does come with a new part that holds the header up to the bottom of the motor but it doesn't match the bolts on the motor. if you really want that set up email me at fasfocus00@aol.com

[KingCrabb]

i had that same set up too. i got that little piece but its just so u can make ur own custom header back... other than that mine worked just fine. i had it thru all kinds of weather and temps it never cracked or anything. i would get it again but im going turbo...

[Terry1]

You will have to get the small plate connected near the flex pipe. In my install, the flex hit the body above the bend of the flex. It was a lot of work, but I got mine in. Also, reuse the stock header bolts where possible. Although the ones with the studs are a PITA. I just put my stock header and cat back on for bi-annual inspection. I probably won't reinstall the header. What as difference in sound going back to stock. Even with an OBX 2.25 catback, it is quite quiet. Only kinda loud when I get on it.

[pzev04boy]

Actually that is a knock off of the JBA header.

[lifer]

im with kingcrab above< ^^^ still have it laying around somewhere in my garage if You are interested make me an offer it is a decent header i never had a problem with it, but now im runing a turbo

[Cameroon]

The only problem with that header is that it's made in China by virtual slaves and buying is adding to our trade imbalance and is helping to destroy the american economy.

Other than supporting Communists and helping to keep americans unemployed it's just fine as header.

[evanjfrancis]

Originally Posted by Cameroon

The only problem with that header is that it's made in China by virtual slaves and buying is adding to our trade imbalance and is helping to destroy the american economy.

Other than supporting Communists and helping to keep americans unemployed it's just fine as header.

look on the bright side,


at least it doesn't kill kittens...

[lifer]

^^^ haha i like that
and as of it killing our economy i dont see it that way if they can aford it to build it ship it for that low of a cost i dont see why we cant do that over here, but no the average john dough wants to make 30+$ an hour for siting on his ass, if you asking me that is why our economy is as it is, and lets not even get going on how corupted our goverment is

[evanjfrancis]

Lol I'll sit on my ass for $30 an hour gladly

[Cameroon]

Originally Posted by lifer

^^^ haha i like that
and as of it killing our economy i dont see it that way if they can aford it to build it ship it for that low of a cost i dont see why we cant do that over here, but no the average john dough wants to make 30+$ an hour for siting on his ass, if you asking me that is why our economy is as it is, and lets not even get going on how corupted our goverment is

Read my friend, the labor costs are insanely cheap (ie virtual slaves) and they burn coal with no emissions controls so the only real energy cost is the shipping.

BTW think about that, their production cost is so low in China that even after shipping across the Pacific their goods are still dirt cheap.

Oh and I didn't get into the artificially controlled exchange rate with China.

BTW the few folks who do still have jobs like making header here in the US don't make $30/hr, try more like $15, and I'm assuming you've never done any real fabrication work if you think that it's "sitting on your ass".

But hey America sucks anyway **** it buy the import stuff

Just don't cry when companies like JBA who did ALL the R&D go under and you can't get a well designed header because China has no one to copy anymore.

[lifer]

lol i agree with some stuff you said but when i said 30 /hour i didnt mean specificaly making headers im talking in general, like the whol,e car industry and all japs make cars cheaper yet better then we do
if you asking me shady busines lol
dont mean to bash our domestic cars there is some i wouldnt trade for a foreighn car (my foci)
but look at gm, of course people are going to buy a corola or a civiv rather then a cavalier with 0 options for the same money, and why is it like this????
maybe becouse someone is making to much money thats why they have to charge the costumer more which is killing the industry

[pzev04boy]

I'm

[evanjfrancis]

Originally Posted by pzev04boy

I'm

i agree.

[evanjfrancis]

just to clarifiy, this setup wouldnt use a cat right?

[hEaT]

Originally Posted by evanjfrancis

just to clarifiy, this setup wouldnt use a cat right?

Correct. You'll either need a tune or MIL eliminator to remove the CEL.

[evanjfrancis]

hmm, i might look for a short header setup on ebay. havin a hard time findin one tho...maybe i could just get that setup, then get a pacesetter short header n sell the long tube header. just cuz its so cheap

[hEaT]

The Pacesetter ones are trash, don't bother.

Shorty headers are pretty worthless for the most part and they burn up stock cats quick. Long tubes are the only ones that get some decent gains. MIL eliminators are pretty cheap, you can even build one yourself.

[evanjfrancis]

how exactly do they work? and one of the reasons i considered a shorty header is cuz my dad would b pissed when he saw that there was no cat =p he helps with the car which is good, but he hates whenever i put money into it. "you wont get that money back when u sell it"


ahhhh **** it ill go long tube header =p

[hEaT]

The shorty is pretty much a better flowing stock style manifold. They are better than stock, but not much better. I don't know if it's the faster moving exhaust gasses or the higher heat, but a very high percentage of people who put them on without using a high flow cat as well burn out the stock cats in short order.

The thing is, keep your stock parts. If you want to sell the car later on, return it to stock and then sell the aftermarket parts.

[djjerme]

Have the ebay header on for almost two years now. It still has some shine (though it's all discolored.) If your dad is bitching about the cat being gone, then I imagine he probably won't appreciate how much LOUDER your car gets when you put the long tube header on... I have an after market 2.25 exhaust an my wife and dog can still hear me from a half mile down the street... You will need to invest in an exhaust upgrade, or else risk being ran out of the neighborhood on a rail.. Also, the header will kill some of the bottom end torque, but increase your upper range breathing.

[Terry1]

Originally Posted by djjerme

Have the ebay header on for almost two years now. It still has some shine (though it's all discolored.) If your dad is bitching about the cat being gone, then I imagine he probably won't appreciate how much LOUDER your car gets when you put the long tube header on... I have an after market 2.25 exhaust an my wife and dog can still hear me from a half mile down the street... You will need to invest in an exhaust upgrade, or else risk being ran out of the neighborhood on a rail.. Also, the header will kill some of the bottom end torque, but increase your upper range breathing.

That's funny. I had to pick up my son in an unfamliar area one time. I got a little lost and he said he knew I was close because he could hear my car while I was driving around. When I have to get him at his girlfriends house he'll be waiting outside because he can hear me long before I'm in sight.

[AcIdBuRn02ZTS]

if you want a decent ebay header... look into the obx piece... i had mine for quite some time while I was NA and it worked nicely for the price...

dont have any info on the one posted above... however the whole economy story was pretty entertaining...

as for sound... yes... does make it quite a bit louder... and a little raspy with factory exhaust...

i then went with a trubendz 2.5" flex and cat back w/ magnaflow muffler and res... HELLA LOUD... and the drone at 3krpm (highway speed) sucked balllzzz.... from what Ive found out recently though... a turbo makes for a nice muffler

-AcId-

[evanjfrancis]

ive got a custom 2.25" exhaust with a 12" resonator right now with a volant intake w/scoop, it's not too loud, I really like the tone. I'm going in to get my exhaust fixed from the tip rusting off soon, maybe ill get a longer resonator or a second resonator put in to counteract the sound of a header

if you want a decent ebay header... look into the obx piece... i had mine for quite some time while I was NA and it worked nicely for the price...

Do you think possibly using an obx shorty header such as this one
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OBX-4...Q5fAccessories


would be worth it? I know it wouldn't have the same gains as long tube, but still? n this one uses a cat correct? If so I'd probably get
a high flow or gutted cat for it.